Middle East Conflict

Gray said:
Two of us in our house and combined we don’t use anywhere near that amount in a day.
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I bet you do without knowing it. on average 1 toilet flush is 11 Litres, 1 minute in a shower is 11 Litres.

so 1 5/6 min shower and 3/4 toilet flushes a day and your done.

1 load in an older washing machine is 180 Litres. modern machine may take you down to 90 per wash.
 
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The question everyone needs to ask themselves is this

Israel as a sovereign state has the right to defend itself, no one ever questions that right it's the same as any other country

What rights do the Palestinians have to defend themselves against what is an increasingly brutal occupation, where they are regularly shot dead for protesting?

I get the revulsion of hamas and their fellow travellers, they repulce me but one cannot escape the feeling that we are ignoring and constantly ignoring the suffering of one party in this conflict, and in many cases dehumanising them

I asked much earlier in this thread, what are Palestinians meant to do about the occupation and the brutality, and I did not get one answer, I can only think that some would prefer to turn a blind eye to it
 
Ducado said:
The question everyone needs to ask themselves is this

Israel as a sovereign state has the right to defend itself, no one ever questions that right it's the same as any other country

What rights do the Palestinians have to defend themselves against what is an increasingly brutal occupation, where they are regularly shot dead for protesting?

I get the revulsion of hamas and their fellow travellers, they repulce me but one cannot escape the feeling that we are ignoring and constantly ignoring the suffering of one party in this conflict, and in many cases dehumanising them

I asked much earlier in this thread, what are Palestinians meant to do about the occupation and the brutality, and I did not get one answer, I can only think that some would prefer to turn a blind eye to it
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They cannot do anything againgst hamas , they will kill them if they even look at them funny , they are trapped in every way
 
Ducado said:
The question everyone needs to ask themselves is this

Israel as a sovereign state has the right to defend itself, no one ever questions that right it's the same as any other country

What rights do the Palestinians have to defend themselves against what is an increasingly brutal occupation, where they are regularly shot dead for protesting?

I get the revulsion of hamas and their fellow travellers, they repulce me but one cannot escape the feeling that we are ignoring and constantly ignoring the suffering of one party in this conflict, and in many cases dehumanising them

I asked much earlier in this thread, what are Palestinians meant to do about the occupation and the brutality, and I did not get one answer, I can only think that some would prefer to turn a blind eye to it
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Can you provide examples of this occuring recently?
 
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Ducado said:
The question everyone needs to ask themselves is this

Israel as a sovereign state has the right to defend itself, no one ever questions that right it's the same as any other country

What rights do the Palestinians have to defend themselves against what is an increasingly brutal occupation, where they are regularly shot dead for protesting?

I get the revulsion of hamas and their fellow travellers, they repulce me but one cannot escape the feeling that we are ignoring and constantly ignoring the suffering of one party in this conflict, and in many cases dehumanising them

I asked much earlier in this thread, what are Palestinians meant to do about the occupation and the brutality, and I did not get one answer, I can only think that some would prefer to turn a blind eye to it
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Great Post. It does seem as weird as it sounds that nobody has an answer to solve the problem, Is there even one that both sides will 100% get behind?
 
Username Required said:
www.jns.org

Scotland offers sanctuary to Palestinians escaping Hamas war - JNS.org

“Let’s say [it] will be a place of sanctuary for them, as we have shown that kindness and compassion for others,” said First Minister Humza Yousaf.
www.jns.org www.jns.org
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Puts the tories to shame , i asked why we are not doing it earlier in the thread , it was shot down , i think they are not white europeans myself and the tories are cunts and are wanting to dog whistle tory voters on immigration
 
kaz7 said:
Puts the tories to shame , i asked why we are not doing it earlier in the thread , it was shot down , i think they are not white europeans myself and the tories are cunts and are wanting to dog whistle tory voters on immigration
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And some one replied saying it was due to the terrorist risk of potentially giving asylum to Hamas terrorists. How are you reaching for the race card when 70% of the refugees we accepted into the UK between 2010 and 2021 were from Syria. Also we're looking to resettle 20000 Afghan refugees in the coming years.

It's absolutely absurd to pull the race card.
 
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From a couple of years ago but still of great interest.

President Joe Biden on Friday appointed Palestinian-American attorney Maher al-Bitar, who served on President Barack Obama’s National Security Council as Director for Israeli and Palestinian Affairs and as deputy to Samantha Power, to be the new director of the NSC intelligence service.

www.jewishpress.com

Biden Appoints Former Palestinian UNRWA Official as Director of NSC Intelligence

Palestinian-American attorney Maher al-Bitar served on President Barack Obama's NSC as Director for Israeli and Palestinian Affairs and as deputy to Samantha Power.
www.jewishpress.com www.jewishpress.com

hayatlife.com

Maher Bitar: Senior Director for Intelligence Programs at the NSC - Hayat Life

Innovation - President Biden named Maher Bitar Senior Director for Intelligence Programs at the National Security Council (NSC).
hayatlife.com hayatlife.com
 
Lankers said:
And some one replied saying it was due to the terrorist risk of potentially giving asylum to Hamas terrorists. How are you reaching for the race card when 70% of the refugees we accepted into the UK between 2010 and 2021 were from Syria. Also were looking to resettle 20000 Afghan refugees in the coming years.

It's absolutely absurd to pull the race card.
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Most refugees are black or brown, you've got to be completely ignorant to think otherwise.

There have been a lot of refugees from Ukraine but they are going back to Ukraine when the Russians have been dry humped.
 
Bazzmand Show said:
Can you provide examples of this occuring recently?
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It’s been happening in the West Bank over the past 2 weeks with at least 75 murdered some of which are children:

www.reuters.com

Three Palestinians killed by Israeli forces in West Bank - WAFA news agency

Three Palestinians, including two teenagers, were killed by Israeli forces in separate incidents in the occupied West Bank early on Thursday, Palestinian official news agency WAFA said.
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In the 2018 Gaza border protests over 150 Palestinians were killed in the demonstrations. At least 10,000 others injured, including 1,849 children, 424 women, 115 paramedics and 115 journalists. Of those injured, 5,814 were hit by live ammunition.

This is just a small example of what the Palestinians have endured. Is that enough for you or you want more?
 
Lankers said:
And some one replied saying it was due to the terrorist risk of potentially giving asylum to Hamas terrorists. How are you reaching for the race card when 70% of the refugees we accepted into the UK between 2010 and 2021 were from Syria. Also we're looking to resettle 20000 Afghan refugees in the coming years.

It's absolutely absurd to pull the race card.
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We owe the afghans for helping us in the wars , would like to know if it the same for the syrians , no hiding we welcomed as many ukrainians as possible , why not palestinians , if you disagree then why arent we offering to let them here but scotland will ?

I am out for today , will take up your rep!y tomorrow if i may
 
One of the biggest genocides in human history is about to take place in few hours against a thirsty, hungry, injured, hopeless population made up mostly of children and women.
 
kaz7 said:
We owe the afghans for helping us in the wars , would like to know if it the same for the syrians , no hiding we welcomed as many ukrainians as possible , why not palestinians , if you disagree then why arent we offering to let them here but scotland will ?
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I'm guessing the reason we (England) aren't accepting refugees from Palestine is due to the terrorist risk which I previously mentioned. I don't know why Scotland, that their prerogative.

We took on a lot of Ukrainians through the homes for Ukraine scheme, seeing as there is a lot of support for Palestinians in the UK I'm sure a lot of people will be willing to board refugees in their homes.
 
Lankers said:
I'm guessing the reason we (England) aren't accepting refugees from Palestine is due to the terrorist risk which I previously mentioned. I don't know why Scotland, that their prerogative.

We took on a lot of Ukrainians through the homes for Ukraine scheme, seeing as there is a lot of support for Palestinians in the UK I'm sure a lot of people will be willing to board refugees in their homes.
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In truth I wish it were that simple. Ukrainians are mostly Christian.In fact would be intrigued to know how many UK Muslim families took on board Ukrainians.Bringing in a Muslim family may not be that easy, for the simple reason that you have no idea if you are bringing in a a victim or Hamas terrorist. Not sure many would take that risk.
 
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