Middle East Conflict

Ducado said:
Do you think the Americans want to get involved in a global war with China over the conduct of Israel, they will stop Israel before they happens, remember China is a nuclear power
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I agree, but the Chinese also won't want to get involved with the US as well which is why I think its a non story
 
Nice little milestone for the IDF.

They’ve now killed more children in Gaza since 7/10 than Hamas killed Israelis on 7/10.

While one attack is rightfully talked about as a terror attack “10x worse than 9/11” and the worst violence against Jews since the holocaust, the other deaths pass by almost entirely without comment from world leaders, and with no historical comparisons.
 
meltonblue said:
Have they said that about Lebanon? Thought it was more about potential evacuations.
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They are in Kuwait and were always going there , it was a passing comment that they will protect there oil trade routes that was atributed to them meaning lebanon, hence the word apparently in the post.

it wil lbe the same shit as the south china seas, they will sail by and america will sail by neither close enough to be a threat just some dick swinging
 
urban genie said:
They are in Kuwait and were always going there , it was a passing comment that they will protect there oil trade routes that was atributed to them meaning lebanon, hence the word apparently in the post.

it wil lbe the same shit as the south china seas, they will sail by and america will sail by neither close enough to be a threat just some dick swinging
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Ah I thought the apparently just applied to the war ships rather than the whole thing.
 
urban genie said:
Cheers, I did only see one video where they said real Jews wear hats Zionists don't so wondered if they are taken seriously as a voice or not as it also had a massive rally in new york by them so they seemed like they have a bit of influence in some US communities
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Doubt the NY rally was the “Torah Jews” that run that Twitter account who are the most extreme of the lot but very few in number. There is another much larger anti-Zionist sect in New York, the Satmars, that oppose the state of Israel and have similar views to the Neturei Karta about the legitimacy of Israel without the coming of the Messiah. The difference is that they are unlikely to have any interaction with extreme Islamists like Hamas and the Iranian regime whereas Neturei Karta aka Torah Jews will side with anyone against Israel however repellant they are. All nutters though and just as religiously extreme as the Islamists but without the same level of violence, although they’re not averse to throwing stones at people they don’t like.
 
Username Required said:
This will NEVER happen in a 1000 years. The Golan heights are critical for Israel's defence.
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Only Trump of all nations every recognises it as anything but annexed occupied land that should be returned to Syria.

Syria need to gaurentee they will never use it to stage an attack as per UN legislation, if they do Israel should return it.
 
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urban genie said:
Only Trump of all nations ecery recognises it as anything but annexed occupied land that should be returned to Syria.

Syria need to gaurentee they will never use it to stage an attack as per UN legislation, if they do Israel should return it.
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Do you seriously think such a guarantee will ever be worth the paper it woukd be printed on?
Wow.
 
We're still trying to work out who did this etc.

This refusal to acknowledge the culprits follows on from the Reuters response to one of their journalists being 'killed' and the craven statement by the AB of C after the church bombing the other night.

Just another example of the power imbalance in this conflict.

 
urban genie said:
Only Trump of all nations ecery recognises it as anything but annexed occupied land that should be returned to Syria.

Syria need to gaurentee they will never use it to stage an attack as per UN legislation, if they do Israel should return it.
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That would be the Syria that's left of Syria? What "guarantee" could Assad give Israel? I'm against permanent occupation of territory captured in war (at the heart of the problem) but the best anyone could hope for re the Golan Heights would be a demilitarised zone. It's not exactly the immediate problem.
 
Vic said:
That would be the Syria that's left of Syria? What "guarantee" could Assad give Israel? I'm against permanent occupation of territory captured in war (at the heart of the problem) but the best anyone could hope for re the Golan Heights would be a demilitarised zone. It's not exactly the immediate problem.
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you have to read the conversation in the context of my original post about the region, someome singled out the GH bit as a response, Gaza is the present issue, but long term a regional solution needs to be mapped out
 
urban genie said:
you have to read the conversation in the context of my original post about the region, someome singled out the GH bit as a response, Gaza is the present issue, but long term a regional solution needs to be mapped out
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I appreciate that, but the Golan Heights are not occupied Palestinian territory.

You'd proposed a three-state solution, one of which would be a Palestinian West Bank, but for that Israel would need to unoccupy illegal settlements. That's the immediate problem (one of them).
 
Postman Pep said:
We're still trying to work out who did this etc.

This refusal to acknowledge the culprits follows on from the Reuters response to one of their journalists being 'killed' and the craven statement by the AB of C after the church bombing the other night.

Just another example of the power imbalance in this conflict.

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When between 10% and 20% of Hamas/PIJ rockets are known to misfire with many landing in Gaza maybe those responsible for the deaths are not quite so easy to identify and it is likely that there may be more than one ‘culprit’.
 
lee_wsm said:
How much longer before Iran and hezbolah join in
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If Israel starts a proper ground invasion which will tie up a lot of the reserves and logistics, there’s about 30,000 Hamas fighters, which is a hell of a lot, estimated to be 300,000 Israelis on the border most of them reserves but not all of them will be fighting units, Iran has a huge army but not that well trained and motivated, apart from the Revolutionary Guards, rumour is that whole region is awash with Noryh Korean hardware,
 
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