United Thread - 2023/24

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Dodge said:
I've posted this in the Bobby Charlton thread, but it probably should belong in here, and I'm genuinely interested in our responses to my question.


We've been singing the "jelly and ice cream" song for years. Thousands of impressionable young blues will have heard thousands of older blues singing that song, thousands of times. They will have heard dad's sing it, mum's sing it, brothers, peers, uncle Tom Cobley and all sing it. Drummed into them from an early age, accepted as harmless "bants" without any thought as to the inevitability of it happening.

So, we have a problem here Blues.

If we're calling out and reporting fellow Blues over a couple of misguided Charlton chants, God only knows what will happen when the GPC finally moves on. We'll have more banning orders than SC holders.

We'll have a 1000 page thread with Blue on Blue rows, hand-wringing off the scale, 18-25 group blame, ban hammers, a general shitshow. Older Blues ashamed by the chant, despite the fact they've probably all sang it on every away concourse across the land, as I have..on many an occasion.

There will be totally justified grief across in Trafford, but the grief amongst us Blues will be just as unpleasant.

So, I have a simple question. The next time you hear the "jelly and ice cream" song will you join in?
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I will for Ferguson, I wouldn't have for Charlton.
Charlton was pre-total tribalism, GPC promoted and reveled in it. I'm 67 and even though I'm a yank, have detested the man since he showed up in Trafford. RIP Sir Bobby.
See you in hell, "fergie".
 
Bald fraud said:
Too right! I hope pep gets this into the players. All next week the media will be banging the United doing it for Bobby drum, we won’t hear one thing about franny! I hope pep gets them fired up to do it for our legend!
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Perfect time for Framnys classic hatrick at old Trafford to be emulated...
 
Dodge said:
I've posted this in the Bobby Charlton thread, but it probably should belong in here, and I'm genuinely interested in our responses to my question.


We've been singing the "jelly and ice cream" song for years. Thousands of impressionable young blues will have heard thousands of older blues singing that song, thousands of times. They will have heard dad's sing it, mum's sing it, brothers, peers, uncle Tom Cobley and all sing it. Drummed into them from an early age, accepted as harmless "bants" without any thought as to the inevitability of it happening.

So, we have a problem here Blues.

If we're calling out and reporting fellow Blues over a couple of misguided Charlton chants, God only knows what will happen when the GPC finally moves on. We'll have more banning orders than SC holders.

We'll have a 1000 page thread with Blue on Blue rows, hand-wringing off the scale, 18-25 group blame, ban hammers, a general shitshow. Older Blues ashamed by the chant, despite the fact they've probably all sang it on every away concourse across the land, as I have..on many an occasion.

There will be totally justified grief across in Trafford, but the grief amongst us Blues will be just as unpleasant.

So, I have a simple question. The next time you hear the "jelly and ice cream" song will you join in?
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I haven't heard the jelly and ice cream chant for ages. As we've become more successful and the rags shite it's become almost irrelevant. Ferguson and his era have long gone.
Bobby Charlton I wouldn't disrespect. A rag he might have been but he always came across as a quiet decent bloke and he was a great player for England. I actually met him once when I was a kid. Myself and the family had gone fishing at Lymm Dam just after England had won the world cup. My dad spotted Bobby and said why don't I ask him for his autograph. I replied no he plays for United but I did eventually chase after him and ask for it. He was a real gent and laughed when I told him I supported City. Rest in peace Bobby and to any City fans disrespecting him you're hurting our club much more than you'll ever hurt his family or the rags. Stop it.
 
MCFC1993 said:
Bit disgraceful that a handful of people singing a song has made the back page of the biggest papers in the country, whilst distasteful, is it really back page stuff?

It's like the media are stoking the flames trying to drum up trouble at the weekend.
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Wouldn't be the first time.

I still remember us being tainted by the scousers booing George Best minute silence.
 
paulchapo said:
I haven't heard the jelly and ice cream chant for ages. As we've become more successful and the rags shite it's become almost irrelevant. Ferguson and his era have long gone.
Bobby Charlton I wouldn't disrespect. A rag he might have been but he always came across as a quiet decent bloke and he was a great player for England. I actually met him once when I was a kid. Myself and the family had gone fishing at Lymm Dam just after England had won the world cup. My dad spotted Bobby and said why don't I ask him for his autograph. I replied no he plays for United but I did eventually chase after him and ask for it. He was a real gent and laughed when I told him I supported City. Rest in peace Bobby and to any City fans disrespecting him you're hurting our club much more than you'll ever hurt his family or the rags. Stop it.
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Did you get his autograph though, certainly in his later years he always refused. A friend who is a big collector of 66 world cup memorabilia never got it even though he had all the others. Apparently Charlton was worried that people would sell it on!
 
kippaxwarrior said:
According to Maguire the rags are now playing the way Ten Hag wants them to play.

That's a fucking pretty low bar then
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so we can assume that ten haag wants them to be outplayed by the team that sits bottom of the table with 1 point and who conceded 8 in their last home game?
 
tweety said:
Did you get his autograph though, certainly in his later years he always refused. A friend who is a big collector of 66 world cup memorabilia never got it even though he had all the others. Apparently Charlton was worried that people would sell it on!
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I did. It was quite funny because I was a really shy kid but I just ran up and blurted it out. I then realised I had no paper or pen. One was found and my uncle procured a piece of paper from his ripped up cig packet and he signed it. My uncle kept it as I had no interest because I was a City fan and he played for United. I wonder if he still has it.
 
Just came across this:
www.thesun.co.uk

Man Utd and Liverpool have more supporters in London than their own cities

MANCHESTER UNITED and Liverpool officially have more supporters in London than in their own cities, according to a recent study. For decades there’s been the old-fashioned joke that United su…
www.thesun.co.uk www.thesun.co.uk
I know it is 3 years old and I know it is the Sun newspaper, however it is an official pole and is quite interesting. The rags have nearly a million more fans in London than in Manchester, in fact City and the dippers also have more fans in the capital (although not as extreme). The other interesting thing is how many city fans there are, our numbers are growing (and will definitely be bigger now than then) and very comparable to other big 6 clubs - kind of kills the “no fans” gibe they like to throw at us and confirm a lot of what we really know about ourselves and others.
 
Mancity1980 said:
Just came across this:
www.thesun.co.uk

Man Utd and Liverpool have more supporters in London than their own cities

MANCHESTER UNITED and Liverpool officially have more supporters in London than in their own cities, according to a recent study. For decades there’s been the old-fashioned joke that United su…
www.thesun.co.uk www.thesun.co.uk
I know it is 3 years old and I know it is the Sun newspaper, however it is an official pole and is quite interesting. The rags have nearly a million more fans in London than in Manchester, in fact City and the dippers also have more fans in the capital (although not as extreme). The other interesting thing is how many city fans there are, our numbers are growing (and will definitely be bigger now than then) and very comparable to other big 6 clubs - kind of kills the “no fans” gibe they like to throw at us and confirm a lot of what we really know about ourselves and others.
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It’s just total bollocks based on Twitter accounts. The figures are fake.
 
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