Middle East Conflict

[goalmole]

And yet none of that transpired in the interaction we saw. Hence my conclusion that this particular soldier in that particular instance wasn't doing much wrong.

At least not until the end when he was overpowered and dropped teargas on the crew that overpowered him. Moreover he seemed to be getting walked away by another soldier who also wasn't shooting any stone throwers

Brutality towards the Palestinians is the norm.

 

[bluethrunthru]

Brutality towards the Palestinians is the norm.

can't like that mate as there is nothing there to like - I am sure some will say it was a proportionate response though

 

[dublinblue12]

20 years ago I watched this and things have only got worse

 

[inbetween]

Nothing hits the spot more on peace than terrorist loving and scrapping.

 

[N1985]

Nothing hits the spot more on peace than terrorist loving and scrapping.

Scum

 

[robbieh]

Nothing hits the spot more on peace than terrorist loving and scrapping.

The guy was obviously an idiot. It's like a visiting football fan going in the home end and chanting abuse at the home support.

 

[inbetween]

The guy was obviously an idiot. It's like a visiting football fan going in the home end and chanting abuse at the home support.

He had a very valid point though but it seems like it wasn't wanted. Says a lot of the views of some protesters though doesn't it?

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

After seeing the latest pictures of children and babies, there is absolutely no excusing for this and even though the US are too scared to say it, the Israel government and the IDF have gone way too far.

No credibility at all, just murderers as their supposed Hamas enemy. One where I can honestly say that they’re all the same.

 

[mancity2012_eamo]

Hamas claiming that 60 of the hostages are now dead from air strikes from Israel.
Source- the BBC news.
Can’t be confirmed.

 

[Ducado]

I keep reading about how much influence the Americans have over the Israelis, considering that without the billions of dollars sent each Israel would be in a spot of bother

They missed a trick that might have nullified some of the anger in region, they should have made the money conditional on the behaviour of the settlers on the West Bank and IDF observing human rights, although no one knows what’s happening behind the scenes not a cent has arrived there are a few democrats threatening court action, could be a holding pattern who knows

 

[Postman Pep]

He had a very valid point though but it seems like it wasn't wanted. Says a lot of the views of some protesters though doesn't it?

Does it? Interesting selection of Twitter accounts you are quoting there. Does that say a lot about your views?

 

[Postman Pep]

 

[mancity2012_eamo]

So if the whole world now demands a humanitarian pause and Israel ignores it, what are they going to have to call it then.
There’ll have to be another American diplomatic think tank.
It’s terribly taxing the time they have to put in, making sure that the language used to stop people being killed, doesn’t upset anyone.

 

[inbetween]

Does it? Interesting selection of Twitter accounts you are quoting there. Does that say a lot about your views?

I don't follow any political accounts on Twitter, they were suggested posts which annoyed me given the supposed weight being put behind finding peace (which we all know is bollocks).

I don't really understand your implication of my views and any association with certain accounts? Are you saying that my views are wrong and that I should actually agree with people who call for violence and terrorism?

 

[robbieh]

So if the whole world now demands a humanitarian pause and Israel ignores it, what are they going to have to call it then.
There’ll have to be another American diplomatic think tank.
It’s terribly taxing the time they have to put in, making sure that the language used to stop people being killed, doesn’t upset anyone.

It seems to me the US is not acting as a handbrake on Israel. They are just suggesting the possibility of a humanitarian pause, playing for time, giving Netanyahu want he wants. The Jordanians and Egyptians are dreadful cowards. They know where their bread is buttered.
But if this carries on much longer Hezbollah will act.

 

[mancity2012_eamo]

It seems to me the US is not acting as a handbrake on Israel. They are just suggesting the possibility of a humanitarian pause, playing for time, giving Netanyahu want he wants. The Jordanians and Egyptians are dreadful cowards. They know where their bread is buttered.
But if this carries on much longer Hezbollah will act.

I watch the news each evening and feel like I’m watching the start of the 3rd world war.

 

[robbieh]

I watch the news each evening and feel like I’m watching the start of the 3rd world war.

Obviously someone has to stop what's going on in Gaza. None of the western leaders are even criticizing Israel. I can't imagine that China or Russia are that bothered.
Iran will give Hezbollah the go ahead. Millions of ordinary Moslems from Morocco to Pakistan are deeply angry about this.
If Iran act they will automatically put the passive leaders of these Arabic states in a bad light.
I fear you're right.

 

[robbieh]

He's confused on the message.

 

[inbetween]

It seems to me the US is not acting as a handbrake on Israel. They are just suggesting the possibility of a humanitarian pause, playing for time, giving Netanyahu want he wants. The Jordanians and Egyptians are dreadful cowards. They know where their bread is buttered.
But if this carries on much longer Hezbollah will act.

Hezbollah are cowards, there is no chance that they're going to act because they know what that means. The US has two carrier strike groups in the Eastern Mediterranean and there are probably a ton of special forces already in Israel.

So far the US has shown restraint in supporting Israel, they have said a lot but they haven't done a lot. That all changes if Israel is attacked.

You have to remember that the US has bases in Greece and also there is the RAF base in Cyprus. They can bring trouble to Hezbollah very quickly.

Everyone in that region is scared shitless of US involvement and that's why they're largely not getting involved.

 

[robbieh]

Hezbollah are cowards, there is no chance that they're going to act because they know what that means. The US has two carrier strike groups in the Eastern Mediterranean and there are probably a ton of special forces already in Israel.

So far the US has shown restraint in supporting Israel. It has said a lot but it hasn't done a lot. That all changes if Israel is attacked.

You have to also remember that the US has bases in Greece and also there is the RAF base in Cyprus. They can bring trouble to Hezbollah very quickly.

Everyone in that region is scared shitless of US involvement and that's why they're not getting involved.

You may be right, the biggest bully of them all may prevail. But I think your characterization of Hezbollah is wrong. If they see that no-one else is going to stop Israel from killing 100,000 , or whatever number they think is enough, then they'll go ahead.