PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

Prophet of Doom said:
The fuck up is that the harsh point deductions open all the financial claims against Everton from other clubs that could put them out of business.

IF City and Chelsea are found guilty then we could face similar claims for literally hundreds of millions.

UEFA mainly slap fines on everybody for FFP breaches which relieves any potential claims from other clubs.

Masters will be responsible for destroying the Premier League - the destruction has started already
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That's right. I made that point when it was first discussed.

It's almost like it's deliberate .....
 
mexico1970 said:
They must know how this looks mustn't they?
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Honestly I know my team Arsenal is now a rival to City but Jesus H Christ the Dippers are unsufferable, pouring fuel on the fire. They are the club that got English teams banned from Europe, have statistically the worst behaved fanbase in the Premier League and yet when there is a chance to stick the (Stanley) knife in the fuckers have absolutely no shame. I hope you absolutely rinse them on Saturday.
 
lancs blue said:
Mancini had a consultancy role with Al Jazira FC prior to joining City, it was discussed on here at the time he was appointed (Dec. 2009). When he joined City he signed the new contract with Al Jazira FC that you referred to.
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A couple of people have said this, but there is absolutely no evidence of it anywhere. Not a single web result for Mancini and Al Jazira exists until the Der Spiegel accusation.

Now the internet wasn’t as saturated in 2009-2019 as it is today, but if a major manager reported to be working for a club it would be online somewhere.
 
Think this whole fiasco is a smoke screen. City win the case then we go after the prem for reputations damage and we win and this destroys the whole house of cards allowing the red shit to form a breakaway league they planned for in the first place and city get blamed for it all. I’m on my 5th beer so please excuse me.
 
domalino said:
A couple of people have said this, but there is absolutely no evidence of it anywhere. Not a single web result for Mancini and Al Jazira exists until the Der Spiegel accusation.

Now the internet wasn’t as saturated in 2009-2019 as it is today, but if a major manager reported to be working for a club it would be online somewhere.
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It could easily have been a method to keep Mancini warm in a consultancy role until Hughes was ditched and then get him into City. No reason for that to be publicised. Not everything has to be on the internet. We just don't have any context.
 
domalino said:
A couple of people have said this, but there is absolutely no evidence of it anywhere. Not a single web result for Mancini and Al Jazira exists until the Der Spiegel accusation.

Now the internet wasn’t as saturated in 2009-2019 as it is today, but if a major manager reported to be working for a club it would be online somewhere.
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web.archive.org

Roberto Mancini and the defection to Saudi Arabia that has left Italy embittered

Roberto Mancini's tenure as Saudi Arabia's national coach began with defeat to Costa Rica at a sparsely populated St James' Park
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"The job is different from the consultancy agreement he struck with Al Jazira in Abu Dhabi in 2009 which, as the Football Leaks cache showed, paid him more, in basic salary, for a minimum of four days work a year than his simultaneous employment with Manchester City."

Edit: apologies, just realised it was Dec 2009 he joined us, I had it down as 2010.
 
halfcenturyup said:
It could easily have been a method to keep Mancini warm in a consultancy role until Hughes was ditched and then get him into City. No reason for that to be publicised. Not everything has to be on the internet. We just don't have any context.
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Not everything has to be online but your entire argument for it being real was that someone posted it on the forum...

I simply don't believe that if this was true it didn't appear in any of the reporting about Mancini when he joined, or any of the reporting around the der spiegel leaks - Mancini already working for Al Jazira would be a major part of that story.
 
Centurions said:
web.archive.org

Roberto Mancini and the defection to Saudi Arabia that has left Italy embittered

Roberto Mancini's tenure as Saudi Arabia's national coach began with defeat to Costa Rica at a sparsely populated St James' Park
web.archive.org web.archive.org

"The job is different from the consultancy agreement he struck with Al Jazira in Abu Dhabi in 2009 which, as the Football Leaks cache showed, paid him more, in basic salary, for a minimum of four days work a year than his simultaneous employment with Manchester City."
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That's talking about the Dec 2009 Al Jazira contract he signed the same day as his City job.

@halfcenturyup is saying there was another Al Jazira contract predating the one signed in Dec 2009.
 
Chi-town blues said:
What kind of justice system is this based on?
This is not about finding faults and the correct definition of the term “hacking “
It was an unauthorized enter just like home burglary.
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Right and Liverpool were liable for that. There is also a requirement on the data owners to have appropriate measures in place to ensure that data is secure, of which we would be liable. Say if that data had been leaked, the people who’s info was on that database would have had a case against us.
 
meltonblue said:
Right and Liverpool were liable for that. There is also a requirement on the data owners to have appropriate measures in place to ensure that data is secure, of which we would be liable. Say if that data had been leaked, the people who’s info was on that database would have had a case against us.
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HelloCity said:
By failing to change our passwords, we would have failed to ensure adequate security. The player records would have been classed as personal data.

Article 5(1)(f) of the UK GDPR concerns the ‘integrity and confidentiality’ of personal data. It says that personal data shall be:
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I don't want to interrupt the GDPR chat, but wasn't the "hack"/unauthorised access in 2013?

5 years before GDPR came into effect?
 
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