Stamp Duty

Mr Kobayashi said:
Is that confirmation that you still don't want to vote your local Tory out?
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Yep. I believe in Conservative principles and there's only one party - flawed that it may be - which espouses them.

Labour under Starmer are of course vastly more palatable than the raving Marxists that were Corbyn and McDonnell, but still I don't believe in socialism as a long term successful formula. I want a small state, not a huge one. I don't want the government running anything other than things that it must unavoidably run. And I want people to keep as much of their own money as possible. I believe in great public services via and as a result of, a thriving economy. And not the other way around.
 
Chippy_boy said:
Banging on about the Tories again Vic. If you're not obsessed with them, you're doing a fine job of pretending.

I don't give a shit who has raised the rates. Its the rates I object to. (And I am not even paying them, since I have no intention of moving. I just think it's a shite form of taxation, as explained)
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Of course I'm obsessed with the Tories. Isn't everyone obsessed with getting them out?
 
Chippy_boy said:
But Fujitsu run many successful projects, as do IBM, Accenture, Deloitte, EY etc and all the rest.

So what went wrong? What's the common denominator. It's the government. Everything it ever touches turns to shit. And yes I know the Post Office is not a government body any more, but old habits die hard. I see it myself with work on British Steel (as was, before it became Corus and later Tata. Public sector mentality. Be busy on something because you need to be busy, but for god's sake don't ever finish anything or else you might get reassigned to something else, or god forbit, be made redundant. So just plod along wasting your time, turn up at 9, fuck off at 5pm sharp and make sure you take your sick days, everyone takes them you know, so nothing to be ashamed of. In short, a fucking disgrace. No accountability, no responsibility, just buck passing and not giving a shit. I see it in the NHS all over the place. I see it at the Council offices. It's endemic in our public sector and former public sector businesses.
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Have you thought of applying to work in the public sector?
 
inbetween said:
It's cheap enough I agree but it was free and nothing beats free. You'd think in this climate aware age that they'd want people to make better choices but nevermind.

There is a Tesco next to the train station and the roads nearby are not marked with single/double yellows.... You can sort of predict what's going to happen next. I might buy a share in a local company that makes yellow paint.
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You wouldn't not use the train if the tickets were an extra £2 instead though would you?

A few weeks ago it was £1.80 for an hour to park in a dead car park outside a Co-op in Minehead. It was so dead that when I got inside the tills were shut and the kiosk was the only place serving with a big queue, so it was utterly pointless so I didn't buy anything in there. And it's not too far to drive to a Lidl and a Tesco with free parking.

Just doesn't make sense charging for parking there in the winter but the council needs the income.
 
Chippy_boy said:
Yep. I believe in Conservative principles and there's only one party - flawed that it may be - which espouses them.

Labour under Starmer are of course vastly more palatable than the raving Marxists that were Corbyn and McDonnell, but still I don't believe in socialism as a long term successful formula. I want a small state, not a huge one. I don't want the government running anything other than things that it must unavoidably run. And I want people to keep as much of their own money as possible. I believe in great public services via and as a result of, a thriving economy. And not the other way around.
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So you should be happy with the stamp duty as it's the price of running a conservative government. Or you could express some buyer's remorse and tell your conservative deputy chairman that it's time for a rethink by voting him out.
 
hilts said:
Plenty still do well with them but the numbers are dwindling rapidly.

Chippy will have to pull up his draw bridge after the next election I'm afraid.
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It amuses me greatly that you and others like you seem incapable of understanding that a normal bloke like me, from a terraced house in Hazel Grove, who lives on a housing estate and who doesn't earn much, should not be like every other money grabbing twat who wants more and more off the government, and someone else to pay for it.
 
Mr Kobayashi said:
So you should be happy with the stamp duty as it's the price of running a conservative government. Or you could express some buyer's remorse and tell your conservative deputy chairman that it's time for a rethink by voting him out.
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Nonsense.
 
hilts said:
It would have to pay £100k a year although he would work hard in fairness.

I just don't get why poor people don't work hard, do they like having little to no disposable income?
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I didn't say poor people work less hard than any other demographic. Where did you get that from? A lazy assumption yet again.
 
hilts said:
It would have to pay £100k a year although he would work hard in fairness.

I just don't get why poor people don't work hard, do they like having little to no disposable income?
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Is there not a local hospital or council that Chippy could run on a shoestring and maximise efficiency?

Sorry kids we've had to close down your oncology ward, to make sure that the Campbell-Grosvenors can continue to go on their three ski holidays a year.
 
Chippy_boy said:
It amuses me greatly that you and others like you seem incapable of understanding that a normal bloke like me, from a terraced house in Hazel Grove, who lives on a housing estate and who doesn't earn much, should not be like every other money grabbing twat who wants more and more off the government, and someone else to pay for it.
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Haha your posting history gives you away fella. You've tried this housing estate approach before.

Anyhow I'm struggling to feel anything for someone who cares more about millionaire home owners tax than say the planet we live on.

You have very odd priorities tbf.
 
It amazes me when you see people driving around in posh cars and living in multi-million pound houses. Where the fuck have they got their money from? It’s almost impossible to make any money in the UK through legitimate channels because of the tax burden frankly.
I am a salaried director of a business and if we make a profit of say £50k we’re subject to paying corporation tax on that of 25% this year. This gives a net profit of £37,500.00 happy days you may think. But as soon as I want to put that £37,500.00 in my bank I pay tax on it again - this time at 40% which involves paying a further £15k in tax which then leaves a net net profit of £22,500.00. So out of a year where the business has worked its bollocks to the bone and turned a profit of £50k the govt takes £27,500.00 of that profit in tax!
 
hilts said:
Haha your posting history gives you away fella. You've tried this housing estate approach before.
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Doesn't give anything away mate. I live in a nice-ish house with a small (40ft) garden on a bog standard housing estate. Sorry if that doesn't fit your profile. Not Coronation Street for sure, but not exactly Longleat either.
Anyhow I'm struggling to feel anything for someone who cares more about millionaire home owners tax than say the planet we live on.

You have very odd priorities tbf.
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I have a sense of decency that some people seem to lack. I don't like to see unfairness in any form, even if that is unfairness on the better off. I am not bitter and resentful of people better off than I am, again, unlike some on here.
 
Chippy_boy said:
Doesn't give anything away mate. I live in a nice-ish house with a small (40ft) garden on a bog standard housing estate. Sorry if that doesn't fit your profile.


I have a sense of decency that some people seem to lack. I don't like to see unfairness in any form, even if that is unfairness on the better off. I am not bitter and resentful of people better off than I am, again, unlike some on here.
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Your sense of decency is allowing you to vote for a party with the least sense of decency in living memory. Unfairness? Ditto.
Your moral compass is all over the shop mate.
 
JOGAMIGMOG said:
It amazes me when you see people driving around in posh cars and living in multi-million pound houses. Where the fuck have they got their money from? It’s almost impossible to make any money in the UK through legitimate channels because of the tax burden frankly.
I am a salaried director of a business and if we make a profit of say £50k we’re subject to paying corporation tax on that of 25% this year. This gives a net profit of £37,500.00 happy days you may think. But as soon as I want to put that £37,500.00 in my bank I pay tax on it again - this time at 40% which involves paying a further £15k in tax which then leaves a net net profit of £22,500.00. So out of a year where the business has worked its bollocks to the bone and turned a profit of £50k the govt takes £27,500.00 of that profit in tax!
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Well fucking said mate.
 
hilts said:
Never said you did just laughing at your working hard for 100k a year comment. Why even mention working hard ?
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Er, to differentiate from "rich" people who perhaps haven't had to work hard but were gifted it/born into it?
 
JOGAMIGMOG said:
I am a salaried director of a business and if we make a profit of say £50k we’re subject to paying corporation tax on that of 25% this year. This gives a net profit of £37,500.00 happy days you may think. But as soon as I want to put that £37,500.00 in my bank I pay tax on it again - this time at 40% which involves paying a further £15k in tax which then leaves a net net profit of £22,500.00. So out of a year where the business has worked its bollocks to the bone and turned a profit of £50k the govt takes £27,500.00 of that profit in tax!
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I think you've double counted there - if you pay yourself £37.5k then your net profit is reduced to £12.5k so you only pay about £3k corp tax at 25% on that. Alternatively, if you're paying it as dividends, you need to be on £150k to attract a 40% tax rate.

Might have misunderstood something though.
 
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