10 | Jack Grealish - 2023/24

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SiMCFC said:
Still love the lad and still insist he is not a winger, he is being played totally out of position and not utilising his natural strengths of the actual player we bought, at some point the experiment must see him move to where his natural position is.
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I agree 1 million percent. I love Pep but he can be stubborn as fuck. Grealish is an AM, simple as...I've been scratching my head over this since he's been here even when things were generally going good for him...
If Alvarez can play behind Haaland then so could Jack. In fact I genuinely believe he would tear it up playing more centrally. I don't think his particular skill set is at all suited for playing on the touchline especially against low blocks. JMHO
 
SiMCFC said:
Still love the lad and still insist he is not a winger, he is being played totally out of position and not utilising his natural strengths of the actual player we bought, at some point the experiment must see him move to where his natural position is.
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What is his 'natural position'?

IIRC he always played off the left for Villa as he does for us.

Either way, he played poorly last night but he's still having a good season on the whole in my eyes. A lot of overreaction in this thread right now.
 
TrentGrisham said:
What is his 'natural position'?

IIRC he always played off the left for Villa as he does for us.

Either way, he played poorly last night but he's still having a good season on the whole in my eyes. A lot of overreaction in this thread right now.
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He was free to play where he thought best at Villa. He’s had to learn his position here and it took 18 months or so.

Grealish misses KDB the most.
 
M Gaudino said:
we won the treble with him playing most games. he was key
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That was last season and it’s now in the past . He gets paid alot of money to make a difference on the pitch and it’s. It happening I mean imagine if your working and you don’t perform you will in the office asap . As I said earlier I’d like to see jack moving into the centre of midfield and given a free run.
 
JewelZee said:
I agree 1 million percent. I love Pep but he can be stubborn as fuck. Grealish is an AM, simple as...I've been scratching my head over this since he's been here even when things were generally going good for him...
If Alvarez can play behind Haaland then so could Jack. In fact I genuinely believe he would tear it up playing more centrally. I don't think his particular skill set is at all suited for playing on the touchline especially against low blocks. JMHO
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Surely Pep assesses things like this in training and has decided he can’t or that others do it better.
 
cordonbleu said:
Sorry, you still don't make sense. Could you please give us a more logical explanation of what you are saying without making a biased, emotional take, e.g. why we needed Doku, and why it was Jack who had to be replaced so early in the 2nd half? You know nobody has suggested he was "the worst player" on the pitch, I believe.
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How does stop stalking me sound?
 
city warrior said:
So apparently Jack is now an AM despite playing on the left his entire career. Let's say he is an AM, then should Jack play ahead of KDB, Foden, Alvarez? All of them score and assist way more often than Jack, so he would still be a sub there.
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And how do you know what his output would be playing as an AM?
 
Millwallawayveteran1988 said:
Surely Pep assesses things like this in training and has decided he can’t or that others do it better.
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Well he better start lobbying Pep to let him play inside because he's not going to get any younger or faster which could further erode his chances of being highly impactful in a wide position going forward...
 
JewelZee said:
Well he better start lobbying Pep to let him play inside because he's not going to get any younger or faster which could further erode his chances of being highly impactful in a wide position going forward...
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He is asking Pep this all the time
 
He's into his third year here now and was bought from a side where he played off the left and people still think he's playing out of position by playing on the left? What are you lot on?

Pep absolutely loves a player position change, he's the man who turned delph into the best left back in the league for 18 months, gave a winger in zinchenko a chance to win titles at left back, turned stones into one of the best midfielders on the planet, had foden play as a false 9 amongst many many others, if he thought grealish could play central he would have played central by now.

When we're at our best, Our midfield is playing 1-2 touch, moving the ball quickly at a fast tempo, it's something we've actually struggled with this season imo.

In contrast, Grealish's entire game is a complete contradiction to that. He likes to carry the ball, take many touches, draw opponents to the ball. That's not what pep wants in central midfield and that's the clear reason why grealish isn't a central midfielder for us.

Maybe at a push he could play as a 10 if we had a double pivot but then if we want to do that, we have kdb, alvarez, foden who can all do that and are comfortably ahead of grealish in line for that position.
 
DATOIA said:
Jack is player of confidence, typical virgo...

He is born on 10-th of September, me myself 20..

So how I work as usual. As soon as I feel challenge at work or manager hires someone like me, I as usual seek another job, where I work alone and feel safety in terms of competition, that's when I operate better and do my best.

I like when I have something guaranteed and don't feel someone's breath behind my back. I don't say that it's good, but that's how I am and definitely not gonna change.

Jack also needs that guarantee, otherwise he ain't gonna play his best football.

Right now he feels challenge and lacks assurances from the manager I guess.

As soon that situation is resolved and gats guaranteed place, I'm sure he will be as good as he was last year.

Last year he knew that he will always play, no matter what and eventually he progressed to the world-class level..
At Aston Villa he was captain, one-man-team and also he was world-class there..

Challenge ruins him, safety makes him stronger.

Manager's job is to know each player and what makes them tick and manage team accordingly.
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Thank you Russell Grant
 
DATOIA said:
Jack is player of confidence, typical virgo...

He is born on 10-th of September, me myself 20..

So how I work as usual. As soon as I feel challenge at work or manager hires someone like me, I as usual seek another job, where I work alone and feel safety in terms of competition, that's when I operate better and do my best.

I like when I have something guaranteed and don't feel someone's breath behind my back. I don't say that it's good, but that's how I am and definitely not gonna change.

Jack also needs that guarantee, otherwise he ain't gonna play his best football.

Right now he feels challenge and lacks assurances from the manager I guess.

As soon that situation is resolved and gats guaranteed place, I'm sure he will be as good as he was last year.

Last year he knew that he will always play, no matter what and eventually he progressed to the world-class level..
At Aston Villa he was captain, one-man-team and also he was world-class there..

Challenge ruins him, safety makes him stronger.

Manager's job is to know each player and what makes them tick and manage team accordingly.
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It’s got fuck all to do with his fucking star sign. Get a grip!
 
He was poor yesterday but the whole team was for half of the game. Rodri and Dias were far worse on the night. Two ridiculous players for us.

With Grealish there are games he's really suited to, others where he's not. We have a great alternative in Doku who couldn't be any more different. Let's just accept both will have bad games sometimes and be happy that we have both.
 
TrentGrisham said:
What is his 'natural position'?

IIRC he always played off the left for Villa as he does for us.

Either way, he played poorly last night but he's still having a good season on the whole in my eyes. A lot of overreaction in this thread right now.
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He always played off the left for Villa? Not true. He played a whole bunch as a 10. Just look up the game charts...
 
JewelZee said:
And how do you know what his output would be playing as an AM?
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Because his shooting is really bad, because he never uses his left foot so he wouldn't score that way and would continue to be predictable. Because Foden, KDB and even Alvarez show more creativity in their passing. Also, Foden and especially KDB have better vission and weight on their passing.
 
applejuice said:
What's your opinion of his derby performance and Sheffield?
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Fair enough, he was very good in the derby. Nothing to write home about in the Sheff Utd game barring the assist but that’s what he needs to do more often and unfortunately it doesn’t happen anywhere near often enough
 
TrentGrisham said:
What is his 'natural position'?

IIRC he always played off the left for Villa as he does for us.

Either way, he played poorly last night but he's still having a good season on the whole in my eyes. A lot of overreaction in this thread right now.
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At Villa he didn’t hug the touchline and pick up the ball with his back to goal and a full back up his backside. He was able to get the ball deep and build up a head of steam driving at opposition defences and go either way. That’s what made him so exciting. We occasionally get to see that when he comes off the line but it happens very rarelt. That’s what made him so exciting at Villa. He has been restricted to being a left winger with us which he never was in the first place
 
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