Joey Barton

[Vienna_70]

That's bollocks.......but carry on

What’s bollocks about it?

I think you’re confusing skill with strength.

 

[Trojan1962]

He’s a very odious man

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

No, it’s not.

The physicality and strength of League One/League Two players is obviously higher, as they’re men, but the skill levels are nowhere near the abilities of the players in the WSL.

It’s not really the point though. The men’s teams would likely beat any WSL side.

That doesn’t mean that women can’t play football, it just means they aren’t as physically strong.

They can be as tactically astute, skilful and expend the same effort as men, so there’s no reason that both genders can’t talk about both men and women’s football.

 

[Mike N]

Utter turd of a man, full of hate. I bet he absolutely hates his life.

 

[bluethrunthru]

And Izzy Christiansen and Alex Scott seem very well liked.

Google Alex and look at her Wiki page - see the games played, goals scored, caps and honours. Then see her post playing career education. Then compare Barton's bio. He was probably doing time whilst she was getting a degree in sports journalism.

 

[paulchapo]

I really believe he's lost the plot now.

 

[Blue boats]

It’s not really the point though. The men’s teams would likely beat any WSL side.

That doesn’t mean that women can’t play football, it just means they aren’t as physically strong.

They can be as tactically astute, skilful and expend the same effort as men, so there’s no reason that both genders can’t talk about both men and women’s football.

So wrong . Any league two team would absolutely annihilate all WSL teams . That’s in no way any disrespect to the women’s football teams but I know from a good source the under 15 boys team at city played the women’s team behind closed doors and gave them a good hiding. That’s 14 year old boys, league two professional men would beat both very comfortably just with pure physical strength and football fitness alone .

 

[CΛL]

lol.

Pretty sure Jill Scott, Lauren Hemp, Lauren James et al would run absolute rings round Barry the fucking plumber from The Ducks Breath.

There’s a history of the best womens teams getting beat by non league sides and u15 boys, I think the best of Sunday league teams would wipe the floor with them, genuinely.

I reckon I group together a gang of people I know and beat the England women.

I don’t agree with Barton though on punditry and the like, couldn’t care less.

As we know, the level somebody played at doesn’t really make any difference in pundit and co comm insight, I could collar somebody in the street and they’d likely be more insightful that Ferdinand.

 

[Barcon]

I really believe he's lost the plot now.

I think a female boxer should challenge him to go ten rounds in the ring.
Possibly the proceeds going to a charity.

 

[paulchapo]

I think a female boxer should challenge him to go ten rounds in the ring.
Possibly the proceeds going to a charity.

Jane Couch would still beat him and she's 55 now.

 

[WNRH]

Absolute bollocks.

I’ve seen some non league and they’re for the most part a load of fat hungover cloggers. An elite women’s team would run rings around them and probably win about 20-0.

LOL

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

So wrong . Any league two team would absolutely annihilate all WSL teams . That’s in no way any disrespect to the women’s football teams but I know from a good source the under 15 boys team at city played the women’s team behind closed doors and gave them a good hiding. That’s 14 year old boys, league two professional men would beat both very comfortably just with pure physical strength and football fitness alone .

I think you might have misread or missed “The men’s teams would likely beat any WSL side.” in my post.

The women would lose the games because they are at a physical strength, height and speed disadvantage. All other aspects of the game could be the same.

 

[Vienna_70]

It’s not really the point though. The men’s teams would likely beat any WSL side.

That doesn’t mean that women can’t play football, it just means they aren’t as physically strong.

They can be as tactically astute, skilful and expend the same effort as men, so there’s no reason that both genders can’t talk about both men and women’s football.

I think that’s the point I was trying to make.

 

[Vienna_70]

So wrong . Any league two team would absolutely annihilate all WSL teams . That’s in no way any disrespect to the women’s football teams but I know from a good source the under 15 boys team at city played the women’s team behind closed doors and gave them a good hiding. That’s 14 year old boys, league two professional men would beat both very comfortably just with pure physical strength and football fitness alone .

You have just said exactly the same as @Alan Harper's Tash in the post you replied to.

Just in a roundabout way.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

I think that’s the point I was trying to make.

I only jumped in as we seemed to be getting bogged down in the League 1/2 vs women debate, when what Barton was suggesting is that the women can’t talk about top level football because they’re at a lower standard.

That’s true, but because of physical disadvantages, not mental and technical ones. That means they can talk in the same way as a male footballer.

We all just wish pundits were all like Onuaha and Chrtistensen, rather than Hinchcliffe and Aluko.

 

[bobmcfc]

A grifting, no nothing **** who was a liability for city. Can go fuck himself !

 

[Blue and true]

I only jumped in as we seemed to be getting bogged down in the League 1/2 vs women debate, when what Barton was suggesting is that the women can’t talk about top level football because they’re at a lower standard.

That’s true, but because of physical disadvantages, not mental and technical ones. That means they can talk in the same way as a male footballer.

We all just wish pundits were all like Onuaha and Chrtistensen, rather than Hinchcliffe and Aluko.

We all wish pundits were erudite and insightful. The reality is most aren't, including those of yesteryear that apparently didn't tick boxes (they did, it was just different criteria back then). But I've never let the standard of punditry affect my enjoyment of the game.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

We all wish pundits were erudite and insightful. The reality is most aren't, including those of yesteryear that apparently didn't tick boxes (they did, it was just different criteria back then). But I've never let the standard of punditry affect my enjoyment of the game.

Is there any actual evidence of “box ticking”, or is it just a way to suggest some think that there are too many women and people of colour?

As you say, most aren’t insightful, whatever their gender or ethnicity, so tv stations must be happy with their choices and viewing figures.

Maybe the majority of football fans want something different to insight and analysis? If Sky/TNT thought it was harming their profit margins, they’d change it up in a heartbeat.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

I think you might have misread or missed “The men’s teams would likely beat any WSL side.” in my post.

The women would lose the games because they are at a physical strength, height and speed disadvantage. All other aspects of the game could be the same.

Pretty much. The top level futsal players have amazing technique but they'd certainly get turned over by Wycombe Wanderers if they played association football. It's very little to with technical ability and absolutely everything to do with physical attributes.

 

[Mike N]

Barton is trying to get a gig on those racist, right-wing channels that don’t actually pay for themselves.

He’s hoping to be a colleague of Neil Oliver and the odd ex-actor who everyone hates.