Mr Bates vs the Post Office

[BringBackSwales]

Post office accused a post office manager of fiddling the books and took action against the manager. Then transpires the PO accused many other managers of being on the take and again took appropriate action against them, who all pleaded innocence.
An investigation concludes it was a computer / technology issue within the PO system that was fucked.....
The sacked mangers took on the PO and won their case.

It wasn’t “appropriate action”

 

[BringBackSwales]

you have internet access as you are posting on here. Google it.

Ouch lol

 

[bluethrunthru]

Ouch lol

well it will give him 400 google pages and a wiki article to bone up on it rather than rely on others to do his reading for him

 

[BringBackSwales]

I sincerely hope the senior post office management are called to account, and ideally face the criminal proceedings they deserve

 

[bluethrunthru]

You know what? I binge watched it all on the first night and was fucking upset and angry and then watched ep by ep this week and tonight ......... yep ..... more upset and more angry .....whilst Vennels rightly takes the flak tonight Fujitsu have dodges it all and should be held to account.

Instead they got a new Govt contract this week.

 

[bluethrunthru]

I sincerely hope the senior post office management are called to account, and ideally face the criminal proceedings they deserve

Those that were there are long gone - funny that eh?

 

[Ohrodneyrodney]

Appalling what went on and equally appalling it has been so under reported. How those in charge haven't yet faced any criminal charges is a mystery.

 

[BringBackSwales]

Those that were there are long gone - funny that eh?

I dont see anything remotely funny about it (I know you don’t mean it in that way)

 

[bluethrunthru]

Governance and legality in this country is at an all time low

 

[Bluemoon dan]

You do seem to have a lot of confifendence that Labour will actually do somthing different?
The lyrics to The Jam's Eton Rifles say it all.
Indeed the most important player that actually got things done after Mr Bates was Tory MP James Arbuthnott (now in the House of Lords) who was pivotal in getting the initial inquiry moving.
Other Tory and Labour MPs were equally heavily subsequently involved in driving forward the Sub Post Masters claims for justice. But to make broad brush claims as to what the Torries wouldn't do is rediculous.
The Government/Big Business Blob is not contrlled by politicians it is a sellf serving organisation that protects it's own.

One of the key elements of this is that it isn't just a one political party issue. It started when we had a Labour Government, progressed through a Conservative/Lib Dem coalition (and in fact the current leader of the Lib Dems was Post Office Minister or some such title when he was in Government), it's continued on into a Tory one that we have now. None of them come out of it as being a shining light.

 

[manimanc]

Was expecting the end being they all got paid out and lived happily ever after. Can't believe it's still dragging on.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

Was expecting the end being they all got paid out and lived happily ever after. Can't believe it's still dragging on.

Not to divert the thread, but the government still hasn't paid out money to victims of infected blood products in the 1970s onwards. Unfortunately they have a habit of kicking the can down the road until they run out of road.

Let's hope that's soon for both scandals. As there are far too many examples where compensation could never grant any relief to the victims.

 

[RadcliffeRick]

It wasn’t “appropriate action”

I think it was appropriate action, IF ( and it is a big IF) someone was stealing. In these cases it would appear that very early on it was found that they were not stealing but those who could make the changed decided that overnight almost all sub postmasters had become thieves.

 

[BringBackSwales]

I think it was appropriate action, IF ( and it is a big IF) someone was stealing. In these cases it would appear that very early on it was found that they were not stealing but those who could make the changed decided that overnight almost all sub postmasters had become thieves.

So it wasn’t appropriate action because the people were NOT stealing

 

[RadcliffeRick]

So it wasn’t appropriate action because the people were NOT stealing

With the evidence given by the Post Office at the time of the trial they were found guilty of stealing. It turned out later that the evidence against was not truthful hence the miscarriage of justice.
I think we are in full agreement that these people are all innocent and the Post Office (us) behaved terribly.

 

[BringBackSwales]

With the evidence given by the Post Office at the time of the trial they were found guilty of stealing. It turned out later that the evidence against was not truthful hence the miscarriage of justice.
I think we are in full agreement that these people are all innocent and the Post Office (us) behaved terribly.

It wasn’t “appropriate action”

 

[BringBackSwales]

I think itv should be congratulated for producing a magnificent series about such a sad and despicable story. Really well produced and compelling viewing. It would be nice to see Paula Vennells get what she deserves, and that’s certainly not a CBE. An organisation clearly rots from the top

 

[OB1]

That was THE BEST OF TV. Sadly as awards are offered at the year end it may well be overlooked.

It won’t.

 

[OB1]

Wonderful TV.

Appalling scandal.

 

[BringBackSwales]

Over 700 sub postmasters prosecuted, several hundred more hounded out of their livelihoods. Did not one senior manager at the post office sense something wasn’t right? Not one person? This must be the biggest corporate cover up in British history. As a start I’d like to see Paula Vessells locked up for impersonation of an ordained priest.