Mr Bates vs the Post Office

NPBlue said:
Why has it taken a TV programme for the public to know about it?

Private Eye has been banging on about this for years, but there hasn't been a squeak about it in the mainstream media until now.

20 odd years of untold misery for those wrongly affected, and the story has been there all along. I'm kind of pleased its come out of the woodwork, at last, but also pissed off it's been swept under the carpet and ignored as a major injustice for so many years.
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I posted about this on here years ago.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Every limb of the establishment has horribly failed in this sorry saga, including the judicial system. I

The whole fucking abortion is a tragic metaphor for our times.
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Absolutely, my friend. It’s an unseemly mélange of incompetence, chicanery, dishonesty, myopia, lack of accountability and feeble regulation.

We see much the same with other scandals. However, this one wins gold with its institutionalised lack of humanity.
 
mancboy said:
If its anything like other public service systems ive seen roll out im going to gamble on errors thrown up all over the place which were immediately blamed on user error and assurances given that they would be fixed prior to the main rollout as the contracts had already been signed and then fuck all actually getting done, am i close?
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This case does appear exceptional though in the sense that the system was actually put into service, rather than abandoned at great expense without ever being used.
 
BlueAnorak said:
That said the BIG problem is the Cover up that will suck in Former Post Office Minister - Ed Davy - Now leader of the Lib Dems. I see he's criticising the Post Office today for feeding him a tissue of lies. Sorry but he was told what issues there were by those who wrote to him and he preferred to believe the Post Office. So whoops! He's a fish on the end of the line trying desperately to get away and not wheeled in.
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Just another one of many slimy, useless bastards seeking your vote.
 
denislawsbackheel said:
No mention of the husband of the current education secretary, Michael Keegan, now working in government who was head of Fujitsu during this debacle?
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He really wasn’t though. He was in 2014/15 which was about the time the prosecutions stopped although he wouldn’t have had anything to do with that either.

There are people to blame who hid the truth but no point putting 2 and 2 together and coming up with 5 and pointing fingers at others. However dislikable or otherwise they may be.
 
BlueAnorak said:
Surely the DPP should have noticed a problem with relying on computer evidence for an excess number of PO prosecutions on previous years?
Oh, and guess who was in charge of the DPP at the time of most of the tranches of criminal prosecutions - one Kier Starmer.
That said the BIG problem is the Cover up that will suck in Former Post Office Minister - Ed Davy - Now leader of the Lib Dems. I see he's criticising the Post Office today for feeding him a tissue of lies. Sorry but he was told what issues there were by those who wrote to him and he preferred to believe the Post Office. So whoops! He's a fish on the end of the line trying desperately to get away and not wheeled in.
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This cover up has shades of the hillsborough disaster about it and makes you realise it’s a dysfunctional pile of shit from top to bottom.
 
Brewster's millions said:
This case does appear exceptional though in the sense that the system was actually put into service, rather than abandoned at great expense without ever being used.
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trust me bud if you have ever worked in the civil service you would know that this in no way exceptional, what is exceptional about this is that it has been flagged up, rather than quietly brushed under the rug.
 
Thieves are considered the lowest of the low and the anxiety to those wrongly accused must be off the scale.
 
mancboy said:
trust me bud if you have ever worked in the civil service you would know that this in no way exceptional, what is exceptional about this is that it has been flagged up, rather than quietly brushed under the rug.
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I’ve never worked in the civil service, so I will gladly bow to your greater knowledge here mate, although I presume that the Post Office issues would probably have been largely covered up as well had people not been sent down for crimes they didn’t commit.

Slightly off topic, but I’m still amazed by that story of Public Health England using an old excel spreadsheet to record infections at the early stages of the pandemic. Given the ease with which data scientists can be hired on a 6 or 12 month contract, so that a proper system could be put in, the decision to use excel paints a broader picture of how fucked up things must have been at the time in that department. Pretty staggering really.
 
Brewster's millions said:
I’ve never worked in the civil service, so I will gladly bow to your greater knowledge here mate, although I presume that the Post Office issues would probably have been largely covered up as well had people not been sent down for crimes they didn’t commit.

Slightly off topic, but I’m still amazed by that story of Public Health England using an old excel spreadsheet to record infections at the early stages of the pandemic. Given the ease with which data scientists can be hired on a 6 or 12 month contract, so that a proper system could be put in, the decision to use excel paints a broader picture of how fucked up things must have been at the time in that department. Pretty staggering really.
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If they could have covered it up they 100% would have, it was the cover up of them trying to send people down for crimes they didnt commit which ultimately brought the whole thing to light and trust me what they are using now isnt exactly cutting edge, its effectively an excel spreadsheet tarted up into a web based system at huge cost.
 
Hopefully the first step in bringing down this house of cards with Vennells handing back her CBE has happened. Criminal prosecutions should follow for all those involved the Post Office, HM Government and Fujutsi in perpetrating this scandal and the victims get the full compensation they deserve within the next few months (which will probably happen just in time for the next General Election).
 
I really hope they go after her and the others complicit in this scandal with the full weight of the law. Always the rich and powerful get away with it whereas the plebs get hung out to dry, now is the time for everyone to be treated equal.
 
I see Paula Vennells has handed back her CBE with immediate effect. I kind of like the fact she did it before she was forced to.
That said, she and MANY OTHERS still have a lot to answer for! It is not just the 2 main PO execs during the cover up who are being lined up as sacrificial lambs by the counties Elite Blob.
 
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NPBlue said:
Why has it taken a TV programme for the public to know about it?

Private Eye has been banging on about this for years, but there hasn't been a squeak about it in the mainstream media until now.

20 odd years of untold misery for those wrongly affected, and the story has been there all along. I'm kind of pleased its come out of the woodwork, at last, but also pissed off it's been swept under the carpet and ignored as a major injustice for so many years.
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It’s taken a TV programme, emphasising the pain and anguish these poor people have suffered, because the majority of the great British public can’t imagine situations unless they are on a screen in their living rooms. This has been going on years, an utter disgrace.
 
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