PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[halfcenturyup]

Pep must get really pissed off with these questions , ask the club for a comment and stop hounding pep all the fucking time

That's why they are doing it, of course. He doesn't seem to mind dealing with stupid press questions though, It's more internal politics that do for him. He doesn't have that here.

 

[kaz7]

It would be nice to see them answer the call and relieve him of that burden, wouldn’t it? It’s not going away, and they should make a definitive statement.

Thereafter, simply omit reporters who don’t stop pestering the manager. Problem solved.

Yeah, the club should take some of that stuff off peps shoulders

 

[Citizen of Legoland]

Pep must get really pissed off with these questions , ask the club for a comment and stop hounding pep all the fucking time

We’re not hearing anything else from the club so I’m quite happy about it. Wouldn’t surprise me if the questions are planted so we can “unofficially comment” as a marker to people like Ceferin that although we’re not getting dragged into a slanging match, we’re definitely aware of what’s being said.

 

[Plays By Sense Of Smell]

Cherubim and Ceferin is where my brain takes me with his name.

Which, wert and art, and, evermore shalt be…

 

[SatOnTheWall]

Probably worse than the Daily United for the amount of pro-United stories it publishes online.

Was the Daily Express reporter at the confidential United meeting?

Daily Express.

Concerns over the French-Moroccan's involvement are eased by the fact he wasn't called as a witness to the Court of Arbitration for Sport hearing that overturned City's two-year Champions League ban in 2020.

Berrada's name didn't feature in the leaked emails published by German magazine Der Spiegel, which led to the UEFA ban, earlier that year.

During an all-staff meeting on Wednesday, interim United chief executive Patrick Stewart tabled questions about Berrada potentially getting caught up in the investigation into City.

Employees were reportedly assured that the Red Devils had conducted the appropriate due diligence on their new CEO. They are confident he will arrive in the summer with no dark clouds hanging over his head.

Because it will all get thrown out before then.

 

[Chi-town blues]

Cerefin sounds like piles medication

Hahah to me Cerefin sounds like herpes ointment.

 

[bluenova]

UEFA have their wage to turnover reduction from 90% to 70% over the next three seasons, which the PL are looking to adopt.

As per the video featuring Txiki & Berrada, City have long since had a wage to turnover ratio averaging 60%, with our target being 55% & the recent maximum being 65%.

Only City & Spuds currently meet this criteria in the "Big Six", with ManUre, ArseAnal, Chavs & Dippers already near UEFA's current 90% maximum.

However, these facts & our far lower net transfer spend is never mentioned by those claiming we're FFP/PSR cheats & have bought our success, whilst the legacy clubs have earned theirs.

That sounds surprising. I know our revenue has been the highest in the last couple of seasons, but it's not that much higher. The difference between 60% and "near 90%" would involve Chelsea, United and Liverpool, having wage bills that are way in excess of ours.

 

[Keeper!]

Why?

The players are the sport. They are the reason tv companies pay billions and the reason I pay sky £30 a month to watch.

Where else should the money go? To the owners? Television companies? Transfer fees?

Money is not coming back to the fans if you cap wages.

The only problem with wages in football is unscrupulous agents take too much.

The wages are obscene and I 100% agree about agents, they are scum in the majority but in saying that 99% of people involved in football are greedy bastards who would happily sell their grandma for a bag of cash.

The players are not the sport, the fans and clubs are, players come and go, fans stay.

 

[Keeper!]

I disagree. Who should reap the rewards of the onfield success? Players & coaches or just the billionaire owners?

You are talking like a Yank owner, salivating over a salary & transfer cap, so THEY can bank more, rather than those sacrificing their bodies for it!

I would agree with that, but the fans take the brunt regardless, ticket prices have to be controlled to sencible levels.

The increasing influence of American owners is very, very dangerous.

American sport is utter bullshit for me, everything about the show and the mighty dollar.

 

[mexico1970]

The wages are obscene and I 100% agree about agents, they are scum in the majority but in saying that 99% of people involved in football are greedy bastards who would happily sell their grandma for a bag of cash.

The players are not the sport, the fans and clubs are, players come and go, fans stay.

If the cost to the fan comes down a lot then most fans would support lower wages for players, but that isn't happening.

When you flood the sport with cold hard filthy cash everyone involved wants a pinch.

 

[Chi-town blues]

The wages are obscene and I 100% agree about agents, they are scum in the majority but in saying that 99% of people involved in football are greedy bastards who would happily sell their grandma for a bag of cash.

My name is wayne rooney and I approve this message .

 

[Keeper!]

If the cost to the fan comes down a lot then most fans would support lower wages for players, but that isn't happening.

When you flood the sport with cold hard filthy cash everyone involved wants a pinch.

Sadly so very true but that also applies to every aspect in life.

 

[foggy1974]

Neither revenue sharing nor a minimum and maximum wage cap would be impacted by the world markets.

Different leagues already share different % of their revenue with the PL’s old 1.4:1 ratio of money being given to #1 and #20 often being cited as a reason for the PL’a growth, and the PL is so rich that no one can compete with its maximum salaries outside 4 clubs (Real, Barca, PSG, Bayern) who all face their own limitations.

I like the MLB/NBA system where there’s a max cap and for every penny you spend over that you pay a tax.

So set it at say £300m wages and/or £100m net transfer spending per year, if we want to have a squad earning £400 and spend £300m in a window, we can, but we have to pay a tax, and that is then distributed to the other teams.


You put all the money spent by all clubs over the maximum into a pot. Set up a scale so the money is distributed primarily to the lower table clubs. For example clubs 17-20 get 9% each, 9-16 get 6% each, 5-8 get 4% each and 1-4 get 1.5% each. Those numbers were off the top of my head I’m not sure they even add up to 100% (doesn’t have to, you could allocate 5-10% of the total to the football league or grass roots). Someone much smarter than me could work out the perfect splits.

You’re still allowed to spend what you want, but you’re not incentivised to spend significantly more than your opponents, because you’re just subsidising them.

And because it sends so much more money to the bottom of the table it allows you to raise the minimum spending, increasing the average quality across the league and narrowing gap from #1-#20. Imagine if Luton, Burnley and Sheffield United had an extra 30m each to spend on players, would they be so far away from the rest?

It also means that owners would be less fearful of super rich new owners coming in. PIF spending £1Bn over the next few years isn’t so scary for American owners when they are paying you for the privilege.

It sounds a great idea in theory, but what do the entitled redshirts get out of that.

 

[argyle]

Oh my God!

Some United YouTuber just said the capture of Omar from City is the best transfer United have made in years lol.

Destroyed FC!

City what have you done to this club! Someone put the lid on the coffin and drop them 6feet under. Game over!

Why are you watching a utd youtube channel?

 

[argyle]

Let’s get it right
Jordan had changed his time since Stefan went into talksport a as max schooled him.

His backtracking is in full motion.
Now all of a sudden he thinks a back room deal will be done…..
what he means is basically that we will be cleared and his response can’t be that he was totally wrong so he will do what the I’ll educated rags and dippers on Twitter do - he will claim conspiracy

For the record if any deals get made it’s quite clearly because the premier league can win their case

Will keep saying, Jordan doesn't believe what he's saying on talksport.

He says what will wind people up enough to talk about it, giving talksport free advertising.

From the amount of posts on here and on social media talking about him, he seems to be good at his job.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

I would agree with that, but the fans take the brunt regardless, ticket prices have to be controlled to sencible levels.

The increasing influence of American owners is very, very dangerous.

American sport is utter bullshit for me, everything about the show and the mighty dollar.

Fans shouldn’t have to take the brunt though. Ticket sales are about 10% of our income.

Football needs to be careful as when the legacy fan disappears, the next generation don't seem to be as hooked.

TV deals are so big these days that clubs could lower the ticket prices loads and still be able to buy the best.

Wage caps and PSR are going to cost the PL its advantage soon. Will clubs realise in time?

 

[Dribble]

That sounds surprising. I know our revenue has been the highest in the last couple of seasons, but it's not that much higher. The difference between 60% and "near 90%" would involve Chelsea, United and Liverpool, having wage bills that are way in excess of ours.

As a percentage of their earrings. EG: 60% of £1000 is less than 90% of £750.

 

[foggy1974]

This Newcastle will get there we keep hearing reading from the media! It's a pat on the head with them knowing they won't get there..

We've already seen with Newcastle, rules been rewritten to stop them doing what City have done. The new revenue rules that Uefa & Pl are bringing in makes it even more of a closed shop

 

[Eric Hitchmough]

Pep must get really pissed off with these questions , ask the club for a comment and stop hounding pep all the fucking time

I suspect they do ask the club and the club says fuck all.

Most clubs won’t allow their managers to be grilled about legal stuff. Either City’s media team encourage it or Pep insists, not sure which.

 

[bluenova]

As a percentage of their earrings. EG: 60% of £1000 is less than 90% of £750.

I know that :)

But as I said, our revenues haven't so much higher.

Even last season, where, for the first time we've gone way ahead of Liverpool. Our revenue was €825, and there's was €682 (the season before, it was €731 to €700).

60% if €825 is €495
90% of €672 is €613

And that's the first time we've had such a gap over Liverpool. In previous seasons, the gap would have been even bigger. Do you know where you saw the stats?