PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

BillyShears said:
I'm not sure that this is about the ESL, it's just more about the reality of the power that United/Arsenal/Liverpool have historically wielded at PL board level. The majority of supporters are unhappy because of the noise that Masters has allowed the aforementioned clubs to make about City. It has been a smear campaign, and it has worked because a lot of rival supporters think that the credibility of the league is undermined by City.

What Masters should've done after the CAS verdict, is the opposite of what they have done. He should've backed City, backed the idea that CAS found in our favor, and basically rallied around his product. Instead he chose to go to war on behalf of the red 3. Now he's paying the price as it has ultimately undermined his credibility and created serious unhappiness right across the division.

How do they prove what they need to prove? Even if City are totally cleared by the IC, rivals will continue to say City cheated. That is exactly what Masters should've been avoiding, not leaning into.
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Stop talking sense Billy. Long time no see.
 
Plain Speaking said:
Could the likely change in UK government have an influence on our case?

There have been suspicions from the UK media that the UAE may be trying to putting political pressure on the UK government regarding foreign investment?

The likely incoming UK government at the time of the PL decision will be Keir Starmer's Labour government.

According to the Labour Parties blurb: "Keir was obsessed with football and still plays every Sunday with friends... A lifelong Arsenal fan, he has a season ticket at the Emirates, where he attends with his children." Starmer also "believes football itself could become a manifesto issue for the next election, where his party would push for a “fairer” game."

The UK media portray City as unfairly sportswashing oil revenue. City have dominated the PL recently. Starmer might regard it as a popular domestic move for a significant downfall of our status to occur with his government in power?
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Would that to be to back the Red Top Mafia & Spuds stance on FFP, or to support a truly independent regulator as the Tories are apparently pushing for?
 
I can't help but think that changes to FFP to Compensate for changes in the PL arena, market prices, inflation etc is now merely applying lipstick to the ever increasingly ugly pig.

In addition the process for dealing with allegations of rule breaches such as ours should not be in front of a 3 person committee under PL auspices. That's adequate for dealing with accounting matters of exceeding the PSR on a "Yep we did it governer" basis but not for allegations of fraud, which is what these charges are. Its clear, to investigate those matters outside of 6 years from the point of charging the PL are going to have to establish, on the balance of probability at least, we conducted fraudulent business practices not once, but as a normal course of business.

There should be a clear delineation between the parties to the arbitration and the commitee or court hearing. It clearly leaves open the path for assertions of unconscious bias by maligned parties in its current format despite protestations of professional integrity. I am still perturbed by the fact, on seeking a ruling, that the courts found this arbitration procedure was fitting to hear these charges, despite our legal protestations. I certainly have a somewhat diminished confidence that we will be exonerated of all malfeasance, but we shall see.
 
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city2 said:
For me the 3 red clubs should all be brought to task for all this shit they have created against not only City but for all the other clubs who now can’t compete on level field.
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But has anybody actually got the balls ( Independent Regulator possibly ) to do that ?
 
bellsouth said:
Question. And sorry if it’s been covered already. Are we in the clear for the period after 2018/19 or have they not yet investigated or revealed an investigation, the seasons since?
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I'm not so well up as some regarding our finances but since 2018 we seem to have spent comparatively little yet earned a hell of a lot so reckon we're in the clear.
 
bellsouth said:
Question. And sorry if it’s been covered already. Are we in the clear for the period after 2018/19 or have they not yet investigated or revealed an investigation, the seasons since?
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That'll depend whether or not they believe we've stopped doing whatever it is they believe we were doing in earlier years
 
Bluesince1979 said:
What a clear, concise, intelligent, eloquent human being…

He will be be totally lost to most of the talksport listeners who enjoy listening to alan brazil, ray party parlour and stan dogging collymore
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Anyone who uses OTT adjectives & innuendo to get the viewers & listeners fuming look complete amateurs when they come up against clear, concise intelligent & eloquent people like Stefan.

(It’s why they are such a rarity in the media spotlight)
 
Bluesince1979 said:
What a clear, concise, intelligent, eloquent human being…

He will be be totally lost to most of the talksport listeners who enjoy listening to alan brazil, ray party parlour and stan dogging collymore
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Just had a quick glance at Everton Twitter and they think he’s just trying to deflect the narrative away from us and questioning why he should be listened to as a former City financial advisor when he’s responsible for 115 charges. (Even though he’s not…)
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
Just had a quick glance at Everton Twitter and they think he’s just trying to deflect the narrative away from us and questioning why he should be listened to as a former City financial advisor when he’s responsible for 115 charges. (Even though he’s not…)
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If an Everton fan was on saying things we didn't really want to hear, how different do you think reactions here would be?
 
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