11 | Jeremy Doku - 2023/24

[Phil1]

I can’t wait until we get rid of this **** and Grealish.

You ok hun?

 

[wolfie1988]

When you say tidy do you mean because he loses it at times? No player ever who dribbles a lot won’t lose it a fair bit because it’s the hardest thing to do hence why so few can dribble like that. If you tell him to just protect the ball and not commit defenders he has the strength to do that all day but that would be wasting his talent. Clearly Pep wants him committing defended and he did it very well today at times.

Sorry for saying your mate. Was just frustrated because it seems like if Doku loses it a couple of times people will say we need Grealish’s control. At times we will but a couple of times whilst on Grealish dwelled on it himself and lost it in bad areas. I think they’d actually compliment each other well on opposite flanks.

By tidy, I mean taking too many touches on the ball. Not when they are dribbling or committing defenders. But in tight spaces when we just need to bounce it off the spare man to create some space.

Today we had Doku, Nunes, Akanji and Alvarez all doing this and slowing us down going forward.

 

[balotellishaircut]

You ok hun?

I’m ok babes x ;) just a tongue in cheek dig at all the whingeing on here regarding Grealish and Doku comparisons, don’t understand why fans can’t see that Doku will get better and Jack will regain form and confidence.

 

[r.soleofsalford]

Still don't get the hype. However I appear to be in the minority and Pep likes him, so who the fuck am I.

Exactly 8-)

 

[r.soleofsalford]

By tidy, I mean taking too many touches on the ball. Not when they are dribbling or committing defenders. But in tight spaces when we just need to bounce it off the spare man to create some space.

Today we had Doku, Nunes, Akanji and Alvarez all doing this and slowing us down going forward.

The biggest problem for me today was Akanji having not played in 2024 was put in the team and asked to play where John Stones is best suited for.

Also Phil Foden last week was a 10/10 playing in the middle and attacking the box. Yesterday Phil was started off out wide and Nunez more through the middle.

That and the way Everton dropped to the floor to make play fractured every time they could smell a City player get within 5 feet of them. Obviously ably assist by the poor officials.

 

[SiMCFC]

I really like him but he showed his frustrating side Yesterday I thought, his snap decision making is his only weak spot but I think this will come with experience and he will learn naturally where our forward players like to move.

Just as an example he has a tendency to just hit crosses not particularly at a target sometimes when there's nobody in the box, then a minute later there can be 3 players free in the box but he instead decides to take a shot or a dribble and loses the ball to the first Man, I'm sure it will come though, he seemed better defensively as well which is a big bonus, tried to track back.

 

[jrb]

Very frustrating yesterday. Does some very good things. Then does some basic things wrong. You can see he’s got talent, but he needs to calm himself down, look up, think, and play the right pass.

He reminds me of Peter Beagrie a bit. Loads of skill, pace, and talent, but tries too beat to many players, goes back on himself, and gets the ball stuck under his feet too often.

Keep it simple, do the basics, and he’ll eventually get the time and space that he needs to be more consistent and more effective in and around the opposition penalty area.

 

[Kippax Street 1880]

Looking a million miles off our level recently in my opinion. I feel a little deflated when I see him starting. Cole Palmer is twice the player.

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

Very frustrating yesterday. Does some very good things. Then does some basic things wrong. You can see he’s got talent, but he needs to calm himself down, look up, think, and play the right pass.

He reminds me of Peter Beagrie a bit. Loads of skill, pace, and talent, but tries too beat to many players, goes back on himself, and gets the ball stuck under his feet too often.

Keep it simple, do the basics, and he’ll eventually get the time and space that he needs to be more consistent and more effective in and around the opposition penalty area.

Yer right, jrb! The view on Jezzer would have changed dramatically had Erling timed his run and got over the ball with his head and left Pickers stranded. He's an exciting player to watch and teams have realised that by sticking two or three blocking his path to goal. I also saw yesterday that he was receiving the ball and having an arc of five EFC players surrounding him and not a City shirt within the space - only move was gonna be backwards.

 

[urban genie]

For me 7/10 performance at best.

yes he went at them and yes his tracking backs got better, but he still has the same levels of falliling to beat the first man as Martin Petrov ;-)

 

[toffee balls]

Looking a million miles off our level recently in my opinion. I feel a little deflated when I see him starting. Cole Palmer is twice the player.

You will catch a few there.

 

[chris85mcfc]

I thought he did alright yesterday, he's clearly a volume type of player who will just constantly fire crosses in, some will be way off, some won't beat the first man, and some will land at the feet of a City player.

Personally, I've not bought into the hype just yet, and think the plaudits are over-egged. Having said that, I think some are being overly critical.

He simply has to work on his end product, and knowing when to make a simple pass, and making it quickly; his thinking doesn't seem to be there just yet but you'd have to assume that'll come in time.

 

[Kippax Street 1880]

You will catch a few there.

Deadly serious

He has had 3 good games, away at west ham, bournemouth at home vs Aarons who gets roasted by every winger in the League and against a 37 year old Milner. Injury prone, lazy, poor touch poor final ball. Spends 2 minutes on the floor every time he is tackled.

Thats what I actually 100% think of Doku, think its a joke we forced a hugely talented local lad out for him.

Bobb will relegate him to obscurity within 18 months. Save this post.

 

[silvathechihuahua]

Deadly serious

He has had 3 good games, away at west ham, bournemouth at home vs Aarons who gets roasted by every winger in the League and against a 37 year old Milner. Injury prone, lazy, poor touch poor final ball. Spends 2 minutes on the floor every time he is tackled.

Thats what I actually 100% think of Doku, think its a joke we forced a hugely talented local lad out for him.

Bobb will relegate him to obscurity within 18 months. Save this post.

Not a fan then ?

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

Looking a million miles off our level recently in my opinion. I feel a little deflated when I see him starting. Cole Palmer is twice the player.

Cole Palmer isn't a left winger. He isn't even really a winger. That's where the discussion should end.

 

[Kippax Street 1880]

Not a fan then ?

Not at all. Doesnt even have the stamina to sprint from the halfway line to the penalty area at full pelt. He's excellent at getting a yard of space against a full back from a standing start but teams have worked out that you send 2 players over to him and thats him locked down for the game.

 

[OB1]

Not at all. Doesnt even have the stamina to sprint from the halfway line to the penalty area at full pelt. He's excellent at getting a yard of space against a full back from a standing start but teams have worked out that you send 2 players over to him and thats him locked down for the game.

Ah, but yesterday in the first half Doku had poor options to lay the ball off two when he was doubled up on. If Doku is double teamed, there is space somewhere and if KDB is the guy he lays the ball off to, the picture changes.

Doku was faced with a congested box yesterday so he was never going to find a man every time. He causes opponents lots of problems though and, like every new / young player, he needs to judged over the longer term.

 

[urban genie]

Deadly serious

He has had 3 good games, away at west ham, bournemouth at home vs Aarons who gets roasted by every winger in the League and against a 37 year old Milner. Injury prone, lazy, poor touch poor final ball. Spends 2 minutes on the floor every time he is tackled.

Thats what I actually 100% think of Doku, think its a joke we forced a hugely talented local lad out for him.

Bobb will relegate him to obscurity within 18 months. Save this post.

Palmer plays on the right if necessary but predominately in the middle.

Doku was never bought to shove him out or as a replacement, that is social media and press shit stiring.

Palmer chose to leave once established he, like all the rest would have to earn starts and tbf he wouldn't start over foden, kev, berny or alvarez in the middle.

Doku playing left wing has nowt to do with palmer

 

[BillyShears]

Decent performance without being brilliant. First half the team was woeful and him and Phil were our only attacking threats.

Speaks volumes that everyone looks for him every chance they get.

 

[stan bowles]

Thought Doku was the only one to look to spark anything yesterday in the first 60 minutes of the game. Much else was slow, predictable, misplaced, ineffective and dull to watch. Many frustrating final balls from him but that's what you get with 21yo wingers. Needs to learn when to drive and commit defenders and when to lay it off with a simple pass. Think the Ederson injury resulted from him trying to dribble out in our final third.