PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

jimmygrimblesboots said:
Agree 100% , the Premier league have bitten off more than they can chew , they need info that multi national companies are just not going to give them to prove us guilty , who the f*ck at the Premier league thought this was a good idea ? Heads will roll in a few months time because they have over stepped the mark , they are not judge and jury when it comes to looking into financial matters of massive companies , they have no power and no juristriction.
Maybe they should concentrate on the club across the road where their Yank owners have put the club over a billion in debt.
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We all know that that huge debt is OK though in the eyes of the Premier League. It really is ridiculous.
 
Colin Bells Boots said:
Let's be honest their recruitment of players has been a monumental fuck-up and massive waste of money which was obviously to everybody but the useless twats that they have put their trust in.

They are a long way from turning the shite around to pose a serious threat although employing people who are clearly better is going to be a bonus for them.

The complete infestation of their fan base by anybody with absolutely no connection to Manchester won't change the dynamics, as they will still represent the worst kind of gloryhunters and hangers-on, so trying to make them Manchester centric is an impossible task.
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Manchester United's squad last year were the "most expensive ever assembled" in football, says a Uefa report.

The European Club Finance and Investment Landscape report says United's players at the end of their 2023 financial year cost 1.42bn euros (£1.21bn) in combined transfer fees.

The 2020 Real Madrid squad were previously the most costly at £1.13bn.

But yet it's debtless City who're apparently the FFP/PSR cheats ruining football. ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠⊙⁠_⁠ʖ⁠⊙⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68274866
 
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jimmygrimblesboots said:
If the premier league had cast iron evidence these charges would have been nipped in the bud months ago , but i suspect they do not have anything and the 115 charges were just mud slinging on behalf of the demands of "certain" clubs.
The onus is on the Premier league to gather info and evidence and the level of financial corruption they are claiming would mean our sponsors and asscociates would have to open their business dealing and accounts to the Premier league , this will never happen , hence we will be charged and found guilty of non-co-operation similar to the CAS verdict.
We will be fined and because we will be found guilty of one of the charges our club will be labelled cheats by all and sundry , but it will not change the record books , there will be no asterisks and the Dipper and Rags will not be given any of our titles.
Then we can continue to enjoy Pep's remaining years and the unbelievable football we play and dominate european football and build the club into one of the biggest in europe , FFP was the only hope of stopping us and its failed miserably.
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I suspect the "non-cooperation" charges are where the real battle lies as the club will not take them lying down
 
BamberBridgeBlue said:
Not sure why you doubt it? The burden of proof on charges like this are very high. If they had a smoking gun surely it would have been leaked and a lot quicker. This is only being dragged out to appease your Simon Jordan’s and his army of white van man listeners.
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I'm not sure about that. My guess is that even if the independent panel are currently rolling around the floor pissing their sides laughing at the PL's so-called "evidence" and thinking there's no way they can find us guilty based on that, they probably still have to go through the full process before submitting their verdict.
 
Colin Bells Boots said:
It looks like Scruffy Jim is trying to turn the rags into City lite with his appointments, seeing that they are reportedly tapping up Jason Wilcox at Southampton .
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It’s a sensible policy. Who are the best run club? City, so recruit as many of their best guys or ex guys as possible.
A sensible policy from the rags? What am I saying?
 
cityzen81 said:
We weren’t. It has been confirmed on here by people in the know that City didn’t know till just before the announcement.

People jumped on Ian’s tweet, it was nothing more than a punt.
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Not true. City staff were told on the Friday afternoon before the Monday announcement that we'd won on all the main charges. One City fan who helps run a supporters club branch got hold of the info as he had a relative who worked at the club and blabbed to all and sundry down the pub on the Saturday night. I got a WhatsApp off a mate on the Sunday evening confirming this. It also explains how Ian Cheeseman might've got hold of it. He doesn't need to hear it directly from a contact within the club because he's got plenty of mates outside the club who have contacts within.
 
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cityzen81 said:
I’m sure he has passed on what he heard in good faith, however this goes against everything all the people with relevant experience in these matters have said.

For example if true it completely proves the theory that the IC isn’t independent at all which we’re told is impossible.

More likely a club official spouting their personal opinion rather than fact
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The PL’s brief will report back to them, which is normal. If the PL then leak, the tribunal‘s independence is not compromised, but the integrity of the PL is.
 
domalino said:
If the case falls apart before getting to the hearing then all football fans outside City will attribute it to some sort of corruption.

We deserve our day in court to clear our name.
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They will attribute it to that regardless.

Even if we are found guilty, but not punished as severely as they'd like to see.
 
cityzen81 said:
What I’m saying is Tolmie has passed on info he’s heard in good faith but it basically just someone’s opinion from another club and should be taken as such

There is no way the IC has said to anyone at this stage what the source stating they have
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Absolutely nothing happens in this world in a vacuum. People who know people will ask how's the investigation going and it will be passed on. I have no trouble believing that generalities (not specifics perhaps) get passed on.
 
johnevans said:
'Spikes'? Blimey Charlie, you'll be letting them have colour TV and connubial visits in their cells next, with your 'Woke Mediaeval' ways.. (!!)

Full on 'Revenge of the Blood Red Eagle' as in Ivarr the Boneless's response to the killing of his Dad, Ragnar Lodbrok, that'd be more like it!

'Dark Ages Justice'.. them were the days!
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A red hot poker inserted into Masters’ fundament would be wonderful.
 
Coatigan said:
They will attribute it to that regardless.

Even if we are found guilty, but not punished as severely as they'd like to see.
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I think this time if we are completely cleared the club will not allow that to happen, and if it does there will be consequences...

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domalino said:
If the case falls apart before getting to the hearing then all football fans outside City will attribute it to some sort of corruption.

We deserve our day in court to clear our name.
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Except we're not going to court (unless things go very badly after all). It's not a public hearing so regardless of whether it falls apart before, during or after the hearing, idiots are going to believe what they want and sod the actual facts. It's why I don't do social media or even (mostly) the MSM nowadays. The truth might be out there but too often it's ignored anyway.
 
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