Chelsea (H) | PL | Post Match Thread

bluemoon32 said:
It honestly amazes me we are where we are in the league, it feels as if we have been right off it for much of the season, maybe its just me ha
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We have, it's been a real slog aside from a few games and not very enjoyable given the usual standards we've set. Our rivals have stuttered a bit too which is why we're still in the mix. Infuriatingly we seem to be making the same mistakes defensively every game. So far we've managed to outscore the opposition but yesterday it caught up with us. If we don't tighten up March is going to be pretty nail biting to say the least and as Pep says, "We'll have to be prepared to suffer"
 
Looking at it and how we played first half and how Chelsea played the game like a final they'll be playing next week it was a good point! What is there 13/14 games left? More teams will drop points especially in the last 8/6 games if the season.
 
Gordyola said:
I’m refer to the season not just this game the best we’ve played lately is when Akanji wasn’t available for Pep’s experiment , this is entirely down to Pep and not Akanji who is our best defender
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He really really isn't. He might look like it because he does more TV tackles than the rest, but thats because he's usually diving in when he shouldn't, or has been caught out of position. Our best defender, by a country mile, is Ake
 
We look far more solid at the back end of last season with the Akanji, Dias, Ake and Stones back 4. I thought with Walker linked with Bayern he had his mind set on something similar this season but obviously not the case. Lets be honest Walker is still probably better than 90% of other right backs in the league but games against the bigger teams who come to have a go are so end to end when hes on the pitch. We seem to lose control.

Fair play to Chelsea i was impressed with them. Thought Gusto and Chilwell bombing forward caused us so many problems.

We move on. Win every game and we win the league. Still in our hands.
 
alexmcity said:
Imagine Gvardiol played like Ake last night. He would have been slaughtered for his performance, as 90% of their attacks went through Ake's zone.

Not saying Ake was poor!

Only that people judge performances on the basis of their preferences and prejudices. 'Gvardiol isn't a LB, so he must be at fault for attacks in that zone. Ake is a top defender, so he can't be at fault.'

Same with Doku. The other attacking players were worse last night, but it's Doku's fault that we didn't score more goals.

The new players are easy targets.
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Ake saved us countless times yesterday recovering and stopping their breaks while the other 3 defenders stood and watched, he was our best player yesterday
 
bluemoon32 said:
It honestly amazes me we are where we are in the league, it feels as if we have been right off it for much of the season, maybe its just me ha
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Still in with a shout at the FA Cup and deep into the Champions League and still a great chance of the league which would be 4 on the trot, a feat no other Premier League club has ever done. There is a good reason for that especially after winning 5 trophies in less than 12 months, It`s been impossible to achieve. If we do achieve it we will be undeniable the best team these islands have ever had.

Off day for Erling seemed to have lost his shooting boots for the day. with them on that could of been a walk over.

I think we could look back at this Chelsea game as a wake up call and a kick up the arse to invigorate this team to its very best heights.
 
Akanji clearly can’t play the Stones role and looked off it all game for me, Alvarez seems to do very little when playing off Haaland and Phil was wasted stuck out on the wing meanwhile Doku is very frustrating and reminds me so much of the lad that scored for Chelsea…

I think Pep got it wrong yesterday with his selection/formation but we still had enough to win and had we taken our chances he’d have been lauded as a genius.

Just got to get back on the ‘oss and make sure we beat Brentford, the dippers and the arse will slip up again I’m sure.
 
stuart_kennedy_tache said:
Sorry, but this is all on Pep, soon as I saw that team I knew we were fucked. Rest Stones and Bernardo in game vs Brentford. Why the fuck would you put Foden super glued to right touch line against Chelsea to accommodate Alvarez?

Title is gone , because arsenal and Liverpool will take some stopping.
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Good one
 
r.soleofsalford said:
Still in with a shout at the FA Cup and deep into the Champions League and still a great chance of the league which would be 4 on the trot, a feat no other Premier League club has ever done. There is a good reason for that especially after winning 5 trophies in less than 12 months, It`s been impossible to achieve. If we do achieve it we will be undeniable the best team these islands have ever had.

Off day for Erling seemed to have lost his shooting boots for the day. with them on that could of been a walk over.

I think we could look back at this Chelsea game as a wake up call and a kick up the arse to invigorate this team to its very best heights.
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I bloody hope so, we start off far too slow and only seemed to step up when we went behind, I’ll be pissed off I we don’t put Brentford to the sword and I mean if we get 2 up we don’t go for the jugular, it could all boil down to goal difference looking at the league this year, if we had played Liverpool yestday with their break away Salah would’ve scored a shit load could job Jackson is crap.
 
alexmcity said:
Imagine Gvardiol played like Ake last night. He would have been slaughtered for his performance, as 90% of their attacks went through Ake's zone.

Not saying Ake was poor!

Only that people judge performances on the basis of their preferences and prejudices. 'Gvardiol isn't a LB, so he must be at fault for attacks in that zone. Ake is a top defender, so he can't be at fault.'

Same with Doku. The other attacking players were worse last night, but it's Doku's fault that we didn't score more goals.

The new players are easy targets.
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Some people might miss your point, but I fully agree. Ake did very well yesterday, but if it was Gvardiol playing, people would judge him based on the fact that 90% of attacks were in that zone, and they were, if not more. They would be saying stuff like he must be bad because everything goes through that area, or why didn't he stop them? Some might deny it, but Gvardiol has been scapegoated countless times despite performing on a more or less excellent standard.
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Our back 4 should consist of Stones, Dias, Ake, and Gvardiol. That's my opinion, anyway.
 
uwerosler28 said:
Ake saved us countless times yesterday recovering and stopping their breaks while the other 3 defenders stood and watched, he was our best player yesterday
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People wouldn't say that about Gvardiol if 90% of the attacks were through his zone. Chelsea played balls behind Ake's back time and again and had a field day in his zone.

Again, I don't say it's Ake's fault. Only that Gvardiol would have been blamed for it. People tend to notice what confirms their (simplistic) opinions. They notice the attacks Ake stops and fail to notice those for which his positioning might have been suspect...But they would have noticed all the attacks Gvardiol hadn't stopped, while having failed to see the good things he did. Games of (biased) opinions.
 
Blue Maverick said:
I bloody hope so, we start off far too slow and only seemed to step up when we went behind, I’ll be pissed off I we don’t put Brentford to the sword and I mean if we get 2 up we don’t go for the jugular, it could all boil down to goal difference looking at the league this year, if we had played Liverpool yestday with their break away Salah would’ve scored a shit load could job Jackson is crap.
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We`ll probably all be pissed if we don`t win at home to Brentford and delighted if we win. It`s what being a supporter of a team is all about. 14 games to go for us 13 for Arsenal and liverpool, no need to get overly upset, my money is still on City.
 
Gingers Dad said:
Just watched the highlights and I reckon the handball at the end is a penalty.
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Agree the Chelsea player moved his arm towards the ball , if that was at Klanfield or Emirates its a penalty or they risk the wrath of Klippety and Legohead and their clubs writing a stiff letter to Webb and the PGMOL.
Because we do not complain about ref decisions like the Goons & Dippers do after most games we are treated as a meek football club who will not rock the boat which gives referee's and VAR the freedom to screw us over.
Legohead & Klippety are the biggest whingers after games but they know the reaction they are seeking Pep and our club say nothing after games about shite decisions , the dye is cast.
 
Wow will Rodders be getting into trouble with the FA after his remarks in the BBC MOTD interview about the referees?
“I don’t wanna talk about the ref but I don’t remember a game with so many VAR challenges. No one is for us, … always move on, move on”.

Well said Rodri. I’m with you. Don’t care what the pundits said on MOTD. I agree about the Walker/Sterling one but the shirt pulling and pushing in the box should have been a penalty in my opinion.

Plus what’s with the angst about that team from the wrong end of the East Lancs and their injuries? Don’t remember them fretting about our injuries to that extent.
 
alexmcity said:
People wouldn't say that about Gvardiol if 90% of the attacks were through his zone. Chelsea played balls behind Ake's back time and again and had a field day in his zone.

Again, I don't say it's Ake's fault. Only that Gvardiol would have been blamed for it. People tend to notice what confirms their (simplistic) opinions. They notice the attacks Ake stops and fail to notice those for which his positioning might have been suspect...But they would have noticed all the attacks Gvardiol hadn't stopped, while having failed to see the good things he did. Games of (biased) opinions.
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Everyone in the stadium had Ake as MOM and also would have had Gvardiol if he had put the same performance in, people aren't as stupid or lack football understanding as you are making out.
 
dhruvblue said:
One of those days. There have already been more if these days.

Chelsea home and away
Pool at Home
spurs home
Palace home
Villa away
Wolves away
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None of those matches were off days , we outplayed and deserved to win every single game check the stats apart from Villa away were they played us off the park for ninety minutes and lucky we only lost 0-1.
 
Haaland94 said:
Some people might miss your point, but I fully agree. Ake did very well yesterday, but if it was Gvardiol playing, people would judge him based on the fact that 90% of attacks were in that zone, and they were, if not more. They would be saying stuff like he must be bad because everything goes through that area, or why didn't he stop them? Some might deny it, but Gvardiol has been scapegoated countless times despite performing on a more or less excellent standard.
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Our back 4 should consist of Stones, Dias, Ake, and Gvardiol. That's my opinion, anyway.
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21 years old in his 1st season at a new team in a new league and still showing more that that useless twat Zinchenko who was caught at the seen of the accident more than any other player we`ve had in years.
 
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