United Thread - 2023/24

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Bollo said:
My SHMBO is from Stratford. You could see the Olympic stadium going up from the end of her parents’ road. Her mum was offered a tour of the site as part of a campaign to keep the locals onside, but honestly most were more excited about getting a John Lewis.

Stratford was always a bit edgy but I kinda enjoyed the vibe of the place pre-olympics. It’s changed now, but yeah, away from station you don’t have to go too far before it gets sketchy.

I could get in to the politics of the Olympic site at length but I’ll save you that. EXCEPT, it won’t be long now until Catweazel, Coe and the shill Burnham start on about affordable housing. For anyone interested, look at what happened to the Stratford Olympic village.
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No wonder Scruffy Jim has brought Seb Coe in as part of his Tax Payer of the North (funded) stadium proposal.

Correct.

It feels like a massive betrayal,” said Amuzie, who now works as a community organiser for Citizens UK, a charity that helps local families living in overcrowded accommodation, and still shares a flat in Newham with his mother and two younger brothers. “It might look like the area has changed for the better, but it hasn’t for most existing residents,” he added. “They’ve brought a new community in, and they’re the ones reaping the benefits. There’s no way me or my friends could rent any of the new housing, or afford to buy a shared-ownership home, despite the fact that we campaigned for the Olympics to come here. Instead, the legacy has just meant gentrification on an industrial scale.”

www.theguardian.com

‘A massive betrayal’: how London’s Olympic legacy was sold out

The long read: After so many other Olympic sites ended up left to rot, London 2012 was supposed to be different. But who has really benefited from this orgy of development?
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com

There are many reasons for rage about £752m being casually tossed away on a stadium to accommodate a London football team currently larging it in the £5bn Premier League, though the contribution which that club is stumping up for the privilege tops the lot.

West Ham United have paid £15m – the cost of an average midfield player – towards the £323m alteration costs to their new ground and are finding about £2.5m a year – the annual salary of an average midfield player – to help with the running costs. And that’s their lot.

www.independent.co.uk

Blame Boris and Coe, not West Ham, for the Olympic Stadium farce

Is this the legacy Coe envisaged 11 years ago?
www.independent.co.uk www.independent.co.uk
 
Keep the Faith said:
He originally purchased 25% of the shares ( a combination of both A & B shares) and then he put in another $300 million for stadium refurbishment, by purchasing new shears approx 2.7%. Therefore he holds somewhere between 27 an 28%, which to date have cost $1.6 billion
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He had to make the same offer to all shareholders $33 this makes up the additional 2 / 3%

25% of the Class B ordinary shares of the Company,
a tender offer to acquire up to a number of shares that, at launch, will represent 25% of the Class A ordinary shares of the Company,
in each case at a price of $33.00 per share in cash
$300 million fund intended to enable future investment into the Club’s infrastructure at Old Trafford, comprising $200 million paid upon the closing of the transaction and a further $100 million by the end of 2024. Trawlers Limited will be issued additional Class A and Class B shares at $33.00 in respect of such investment.
Current share value is $14.37

He now owns >27% of >$1B of debt
 
Gordyola said:
He had to make the same offer to all shareholders $33 this makes up the additional 2 / 3%

25% of the Class B ordinary shares of the Company,
a tender offer to acquire up to a number of shares that, at launch, will represent 25% of the Class A ordinary shares of the Company,
in each case at a price of $33.00 per share in cash
$300 million fund intended to enable future investment into the Club’s infrastructure at Old Trafford, comprising $200 million paid upon the closing of the transaction and a further $100 million by the end of 2024. Trawlers Limited will be issued additional Class A and Class B shares at $33.00 in respect of such investment.
Current share value is $14.37

He now owns >27% of >$1B of debt
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We all said what was in it for the Chelsea fan and now we know, it's all about free stadium funding and then the usual UMS tactic of creaming off the money each year.
 
Fred_Quimby said:
www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk

Area around Man Utd's Old Trafford could soon be transformed in huge masterplan

The area surrounding Manchester United's Old Trafford could soon be transformed
www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk

Get used to it, this is going ahead. Ticks all the boxes, top Tory in charge (Coe), top Tory donor with previous in getting this government to pay for his investment (£600m plastics factory in the EU), opportunity for lots of developers to make lots of money at the public expense. ‘A total of 5,000 new homes, the majority said to be apartments, are also referenced. The document states the area 'can accommodate a large number of tall buildings ,ranging from six storeys to 30 storeys'.’ Note ’apartments’ no mention of social housing so lots of money to be trousered by the Tory donors. It will sail through Parliament, lots of Tory Ministers and MPs will be looking for new jobs soon and everyone else with any clout will be offered a ‘bribe’ sorry ‘incentive’ to pass it through. Burnham and some in the Labour Party (good proportion of rags anyway) will hold this up as a flagship investment as to what a Labour council can do. Lots of ‘transform‘ and ‘regenerate’ buzz words.

Scruffy Jim is not stupid his £1.2bn will be a good investment as he, and the Glazers, will make a small fortune out of it; paid for by you and I.

This will happen.
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Taking off the blue tinted glasses for a moment, that you are quite probably right is indicative of what a shit show we've become as a country. We used to mock places like Italy for their grift and corruption but here we are. The likes of Coe are part of the underlying problem in this country but someone like Burnham should be made to feel as uncomfortable as possible about this not because it's got anything to do with the rags but because it's indicative of an era where politicians who claim to represent ordinary working people are more often complicit in screwing them over.
 
It’s going to be interesting for new incoming chief exec of the combined councils deals with any inevitable fallout from any funding given to the rags while regeneration money is needed in all of areas.

Regarding Burnham my mauds company has had dealing with him regarding a very night level job and these are her words “He’s a complete arrogant twat”
 
marco said:
is this stadium getting built before they sign Kane or Mbappe or after, never fucking happen in a month of Sundays, the PR machine is well and trully up and running so dont believe a word, the country is on its backside 'skint' with no money to fund a Wembley North for them cunts, and if there was enough money there would be public rage with people dying of the likes of cancer while on a waiting list for treatment
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Unfortunately we live in a Corporatcracy, the whole point of which is to funnel tax payers money to corporate entities.
 
all that money spent and there'll still only be one premier league team in manchester, they'll be the west ham of the north, a mid table team in a shiny new stadium
 
pirate said:
I disagree
we should offer them our stadium at 30 million a game plus all the matchday stadium income.
that's about 750 million a season
I could live with that
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May be but by Christmas our pitch would be fucked and the cost of repairing the stadium after every rags game would run into millions.

Let then hire Evertons old ground than Everton can make money and avoid ffp !
 
lazerblue said:
all that money spent and there'll still only be one premier league team in manchester, they'll be the west ham of the north, a mid table team in a shiny new stadium
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Trafford Council will only give planning permission if the rags stop using another borough name. Soon to be know as Trafford Utd.
 
I really don’t get what the rags are trying to do regenerating the area around the swamp. A lot of the stuff they could put there is already there. There’s a shopping centre with a cinema and bars in it at the Lowry centre, there’s ski slopes, crazy golf and a soon to be built indoor water park at the Trafford centre. The city doesn’t need another arena as we will soon have two.

I would imagine it’s going to be shit loads of apartments that won’t be affordable to people in the surrounding area, further gentrifying Greater Manchester further.

And then you have Lord Coe getting some cushy job to line his bank account with. Why are non of the press going after them as this whole thing stinks.
 
pirate said:
I disagree
we should offer them our stadium at 30 million a game plus all the matchday stadium income.
that's about 750 million a season
I could live with that
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I wouldn't let those bastards use the bogs in the academy for 100 million a week.
Never forget than banner .
Fuck them.
Every fucking one
 
Blackley_Blue said:
A Scouser fully sucking off the rags is absolute cringe.

Sooner Burnham fucks off the better.

His antics will turn both mancs and scousers against him, all for the love of a few cockney rags.

cnut
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Take the football and politics out of it for a moment and I'd expect the mayor of Greater Manchester to do everything he possibly could to attract any kind of investment into the area they are paid to look after.
If there was any kind of chance of money coming from central government to be spent in Greater Manchester they 100% should be doing everything they can to make sure we can get it.
Irregardless of the ethics of billionaires getting taxpayer money if it is offered to the region by the government for a specific project it should be accepted, transforming any part of the region through investment will bring jobs and more money into the local economy.
The difficult but will be making sure people like Seb Coe don't skim that money off the top and give it their mates or making sure Scruffy Jim doesn't whisk it away offshore.
People should be directing their ire towards the government if they are, possibly, going to be giving money to billionaires and huge companies (which is what United are) like this when it should be used for much better public initiatives. If the money is offered though it should be accepted because if it gets turned down because some people support a different football team then that money will just follow the rest of taxpayer funds and be spent in Surrey and The Cotswolds which won't do anything for the people of Greater Manchester at all.
I can understand the criticism if this was the only money Burnham had tried to get spent in the region but it just isn't, this is just another way that, may possibly, have opened up of getting some investment into one of the many ignored regions in the country.
 
feedmpenzaandhewillscore said:
I really don’t get what the rags are trying to do regenerating the area around the swamp. A lot of the stuff they could put there is already there. There’s a shopping centre with a cinema and bars in it at the Lowry centre, there’s ski slopes, crazy golf and a soon to be built indoor water park at the Trafford centre. The city doesn’t need another arena as we will soon have two.

I would imagine it’s going to be shit loads of apartments that won’t be affordable to people in the surrounding area, further gentrifying Greater Manchester further.

And then you have Lord Coe getting some cushy job to line his bank account with. Why are non of the press going after them as this whole thing stinks.
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They're trying to get their decrepit stadium upgraded for free under the guise of regenerating the local area
 
Jim and the G’s are just trying the American way where by the city pays for a new stadium normally on the back of them talking about moving - where in the south could they go? Had several United friends say it’s wrong for all the reasons we say. Burnham’s up for election in May if (big if) there’s a credible candidate sure lots of Blues/non football/Liverpool fans (don’t underestimate how many in greater Manchester, there’s a dozen plus at work and we are in the city centre) might vote against him
 
Never thought I’d say this but a great article about the hypocrisy of Scuffy Jim Scouser Burnham

“Memo to greater Manchester taxpayers... Monaco Jim is down to his last £14bn and needs your help to build a new Old Trafford... and Andy Burnham's involvement is an embarrassment that should be laughed out of town”

apple.news

Sir Jim Ratcliffe Man Utd stadium plan is a disgrace - Andy Burnham should be embarrassed — The Mirror

Memo to Manchester taxpayers... Monaco Jim is down to his last £14bn and needs your help to build a new Old Trafford... and Andy Burnham's involvement is an embarrassment that should be laughed out of town
apple.news apple.news
 
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