Thanks for reply.Obviously not. They are English. There is no corruption in the PL.
Actually, without being facetious, I honestly believe that. This is too high profile and too reputation building/ damaging to be influenced by personal prejudices, imho.
Maybe naïve, but that's just me. Not one for conspiracy theories, as you know.
I'm slightly less pessimistic than you but share your concern over bias.The most powerful court in the world I.e. the US Supreme Court is riddled with political bias and back handers I.e. corruption. Given this three person Premier League commission is being hand picked by a senior figure with close links to one of our rivals and can operate on a balance of probability basis akin to VARs infamous “clear and obvious error” criteria, I think we are going to get screwed. The other factor is the popular consensus that we are already guilty hence there will be no clamour to support us if we are done over. The cartel want us gone and will do whatever it takes to get rid of us even if it damages them in the process.
Correct! Bad news for us and its top story for at least 24 hours! Good news for us and it’s gone in no time!The IPO piece in the mail is way down the pecking order. Without even reading it, the fact it’s buried deep shows it ain’t good news for the red cartel and the media.
Hide any positive story. Anything negative goes and stays as top story.
No, but it could only be that they paid no attention to the evidence. Also this judge's clerk published a paper which essentially claimed we were guilty. They were the one appointed by UEFA so it sounds like they'd made up their mind before the hearing even started.PB.
I asked the question. Don’t think it got a reply looking back. Do you know the reason or reasons why 1 of the 3 CAS Judges found City guilty? Was their reason/reasons ever stated in the judges final decisions? Thanks.
No doubt time will tell. But will they continue to flog a dead horse if the facts are increasingly indicating we are not guilty and that info is in the public domain? The PL could say at anytime we have rigorously investigated this and there is no substantive evidence. Sometimes you have to accept defeat however difficult that will be for them rather than flogging a dead horse. We shall see.I am not so sure. My feeling is that the PL has to carry this through to the end. It would be organisational suicide not to. Even if Masters is removed, the PL will have to continue the process to its completion imho.
It's better (not by much in the current climate, granted) for the PL to fight and lose than to give up after a year of (effectively) tub-thumping.
Done it already mate. https://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/...aches-of-financial-rules.358514/post-16658933Any chance of a definitive layman's rebuttal of this PB?
I usually say 'only a tiny percentage of the charges were time barred and City had them covered anyway'.
Obviously I'm winging it in on the subject. Is that broadly correct though?
True ! I googled man city and my screen is plastered with cancelo‘s **** mouth .Correct! Bad news for us and its top story for at least 24 hours! Good news for us and it’s gone in no time!
At the end of the day, in the final analysis, when all is said and done, all other things being equal, it will all come out in the wash.
End thread.
Not sure anyone answered this yet. I'll try but it's all from memory as I'm on my phone. I will check later for any stupid mistakes.What I'm rying to find out is, we're the time barred charges the same as the charges we were exonerated on but just earlier? Also what percentage of the charges were time barred?
Excellent. Thanks very much.
I thought that was a tremendous listen.Just watching the typical city interview with Stefan. Interesting part for me
, Stefan mentions the following ' either the alleged fraud did not occur, or, the independent commission is not able to establish to the necessary legal standard that these things occurred'
and right there in that last part could be the PL get out of jail card statement and finding. It would find no charge (except for maybe non co-operation) but leave the red shirts and media to still say city are guilty but got off on a technicality once again
@KS55 - this a possibility maybe
My expectation since the start has been that the Mancini and Fordham charges will end up being ‘proven’ along with the non compliance ones but the most serious will fall.That is almost certainly the outcome.
They won't be able to prove it (the most serious charges) either because it didn't happen or because they will not have access to the evidence they need to prove it.
People can say what they like. Who cares?
Edit: I should have said the most serious charges. Amended above. They can still have some success on non-compliance and, probably, some disclosure issues.
Sorry to be slow here but is this public release good or bad for us?
My expectation since the start has been that the Mancini and Fordham charges will end up being ‘proven’ along with the non compliance ones but the most serious will fall.
Since it was rumoured that May 25 is the target to release a ruling I’ve suspected a large fine and some points off for the above, ultimately reduced to a fine only on appeal leaving nobody happy.
Could you expand on this? How?Redshirts priorities may have changed in the last twelve months.
We are man city and we bring guns to a knife fight.
Well united’s plainly have as they’ve had a change in their ownership model and there’s definitely been an attempt at a detente by Ratcliffe.Could you expand on this? How?
Now you're just being ridiculous, but they did start it!I see HMRC smashing their way through the gates screaming you’ve paid to much tax we need to repay you.