Season Tickets - 2024/25

With the flexi being an opportunity for people to bring kids, won't that require lots of moving around so the adult is sat in a seat with a spare seat next to it?
How will that work with nobody knowing which seats will have a spare next to it?
*for current members and not season ticket holders
 
blueparrot said:
They haven’t said, just said qualifying members, hope it would be points.
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It does say, if they’re over subscribed, it’ll go to highest points first from those that expressed an interest.

I’m assuming that’s just from the adults allocation though.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
Our matchday revenue has been underreported in previous years (not maliciously I might add) because of the way we accounted for hospitality income.

Basically, F3 paid us a fee, and they bore all the costs but also took the revenue. So if they paid us, say 10% and hospitality food and drink revenue was £20m, we'd get £2m. In fact that was classed as commercial income, rather than matchday.

Partway through last season we changed so that we bore the cost but booked the revenue, which is why matchday revenue increased significantly. This financial year will be the first full one under the new arrangements so I'd expect matchday income to exceed £80m (it was around the £57m mark in 2022).

Based on a projected matchday revenue of £82m our pro-data revenue per head, based on maximum capacity of 53,500 will be just over £1,500 per person. If you do the same calculation for united, based on their 75k capacity, that comes to £1,450 per person.

We aren't lagging our peers therefore, and anyone who says we need the increases to catch up doesn't understand that.
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What’s F3 and where I can read more about this setup? I’d like to know more
 
117 M34 said:
With the flexi being an opportunity for people to bring kids, won't that require lots of moving around so the adult is sat in a seat with a spare seat next to it?
How will that work with nobody knowing which seats will have a spare next to it?
*for current members and not season ticket holders
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It does say it’ll all be sorted after the renewal window is closed.

I’m assuming by that they’ll be a window before the regular relocation window, when successful applicants can access the map, pick the flexi seat and relocate their current tickets at the same time.

All guess work until the renewal window is closed though.
 
Dunne's own goal said:
What’s F3 and where I can read more about this setup? I’d like to know more
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Fabulous Fan Fayre. There's nothing published on the arrangement as it's a commercial arrangement and therefore private. You can see information about them here:

THE MENU MAKERS SERVICES LIMITED overview - Find and update company information - GOV.UK

THE MENU MAKERS SERVICES LIMITED - Free company information from Companies House including registered office address, filing history, accounts, annual return, officers, charges, business activity
find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk

They provided catering services at the Etihad, and until 2021, Watford FC. If we've sacked them off, then they're probably out of business. According to Companies House, they haven't filed their 2022 accounts yet, which are currently 6 months overdue.
 
Stephen230 said:
It does say, if they’re over subscribed, it’ll go to highest points first from those that expressed an interest.

I’m assuming that’s just from the adults allocation though.
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I notice in the terms and conditions that Flexi gold cant be covered to standard gold.
One for if you were thinking of converting your current standard gold.
Seems like Flexi gold is the entry point for new ST holders.
Gives the benefits the other Sts have but I sense it will work out more expensive.
 
I wouldn't be the slightest bit surprised if Flexi Golds were to become the only option for anyone not currently a SC holder from now on. The club will be trying it for the coming season and maybe they will tweak it next summer for the opening of the expanded NS. That will be filled by relocating SC holders, Flexi Golds, GA & GA+ but no new Gold SCs.
 
Invisible Man's Bandage said:
I wouldn't be the slightest bit surprised if Flexi Golds were to become the only option for anyone not currently a SC holder from now on. The club will be trying it for the coming season and maybe they will tweak it next summer for the opening of the expanded NS. That will be filled by relocating SC holders, Flexi Golds, GA & GA+ but no new Gold SCs.
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I’d like to think that the club have a business strategy that includes X amount of standard season ticket holders. When we eventually get down to that amount, for every standard gold that doesn’t renew, a flexi gold gets to convert to a standard gold and a match day member gets to upgrade to a flexi gold etc.

I think people would be more accepting of new initiatives if the club would just communicate their ideas with us every once in a while.
 
The lads on this weeks bluemoon podcast were discussing this. Casey (I think) gave a good controlled rant about the flexi gold policy. Basically he said the club is trying to cut the number of season ticket holders so the day trippers can spend more money at the ground. Said that anyone going for the flexi gold will say goodbye to any chance of renewing a season ticket. Interesting stuff and unfortunately this the path the club is choosing to go down! Basically it’s two fingers up at the loyal fans who’ve been there with the club through thin and thin.
 
Something mentioned on the Blue Moon podcast, which I admit I was completely unaware of. On any average match day at Anfield, roughly 40% of seats are filled by season ticket holders. At the Etihad, it's 75%. That's a huge difference. The theory expounded on the podcast is that the powers-that-be in charge of revenue and accounts now want fewer seasoncard holders in the stadium, and that we'll gradually be moving towards that. Makes sense in purely financial terms, although it's an absolute nonsense in terms of atmosphere and long-term non-tourist commitment to the club. I don't say that that is proven, but it's certainly an interesting listen.

Ah snap! Just seen the post above.
 
Invisible Man's Bandage said:
I wouldn't be the slightest bit surprised if Flexi Golds were to become the only option for anyone not currently a SC holder from now on. The club will be trying it for the coming season and maybe they will tweak it next summer for the opening of the expanded NS. That will be filled by relocating SC holders, Flexi Golds, GA & GA+ but no new Gold SCs.
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Don't be surprised if Flexi-Gold becomes the de-facto standard for all season tickets over the next few seasons.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
Don't be surprised if Flexi-Gold becomes the de-facto standard for all season tickets over the next few seasons.
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Unless we are playing in the North West Counties League :)

Again that wouldn't surprise me but at that point they would have won and after over 60 years of match going I'd be calling it a day.
 
Lovebitesandeveryfing said:
Something mentioned on the Blue Moon podcast, which I admit I was completely unaware of. On any average match day at Anfield, roughly 40% of seats are filled by season ticket holders. At the Etihad, it's 75%. That's a huge difference. The theory expounded on the podcast is that the powers-that-be in charge of revenue and accounts now want fewer seasoncard holders in the stadium, and that we'll gradually be moving towards that. Makes sense in purely financial terms, although it's an absolute nonsense in terms of atmosphere and long-term non-tourist commitment to the club. I don't say that that is proven, but it's certainly an interesting listen.

Ah snap! Just seen the post above.
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The sooner the powers that be realise that we aren’t United or Liverpool in terms of global appeal, and never will be, the better.
 
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