Joao Cancelo | Al Hilal Player

[Silva2021]

Kolarov certainly had a few great FK’s and one I liked.

Although Pep playing him @ CB is not something I miss

 

[Jim Tolmie's Underpants]

No matter how talented he is and he is very talented, you've also got to remember is he's a total liability at the back, he's also very toxic.

 

[cordonbleu]

Yeah Bernardo has a 50 mil release clause.. we can just say we want 50 mil in 1 go, not a Ferran Torres payment plan.

A Spanish source indicates that Barca do not consider Bernie as a priority. Nor is Cancelo a priority, meaning they either want another loan or return to City.

 

[Dribble]

A Spanish source indicates that Barca do not consider Bernie as a priority. Nor is Cancelo a priority, meaning they either want another loan or return to City.

It came as little surprise to me that Xavi reversed his decision to leave Barça. Knowing their days of mega money signings were over, he tried to rebuild the whole playing side of the club from the ground upward. This meant starting with La Maisa.

Following Pep's lead, Xavi looked inward to reestablish the philosophy of Cryuff from La Maisa to the first team, but the issue he faced was fans unrealistic expectations for instant success & a return to the halcyon days of Guardiola. When this wasn't achieved, the pressure from the fans & the press became too much to bear & he signalled his intention to leave this summer.

Because of this, the pressure on the club & squad was released as minds became concentrated on who & what next? Xavi started relying on the clutch of promising youth he had coming through, & suddenly things started to click after a woeful start to the campaign.

As things got better & better & Barça began climbing the table & reached the quarter finals of the CL, where a sending off turned a game they were winning & expected to win, into a bitter defeat. Everyone around Xavi was proud of his progress this season, but more because of the La Maisa bred young players who're steadily becoming the spine of his first team.

Now he's decided to stay & Barça have seen a better long-term way, it casts a shadow on the expensive ageing stars they have, including the ones they were previously targeting.

Lewandowski is a shadow of the clinical marksman he was at Bayern. Cancelo's shown what an erratic basket case he is at the highest level. They also have Romeu, Martinez, Alonso, Roberto & Gundog underpinning their younger players. This issue is they're all 30+

This is why I reckon the Barça's fans & board are willing to show patience, because they can see long-term progress as a way to success, rather than pulling levers to buy ageing Superstars as a way of returning to the top of European football.

This is where Cancelo etc come in. Is he worth what we're asking, or are Barça better off looking within & investing the money we want for Joao elsewhere on a younger prospect? Bernardo's a special case, but how much will it cost them in transfers & wages to get him?

I just get a feeling that reality has finally hit Barça & they realise that steady progress back to the top is required instead of blowing everyone out of the water with blockbuster fees & wages.

 

[cordonbleu]

It came as little surprise to me that Xavi reversed his decision to leave Barça. Knowing their days of mega money signings were over, he tried to rebuild the whole playing side of the club from the ground upward. This meant starting with La Maisa.

Following Pep's lead, Xavi looked inward to reestablish the philosophy of Cryuff from La Maisa to the first team, but the issue he faced was fans unrealistic expectations for instant success & a return to the halcyon days of Guardiola. When this wasn't achieved, the pressure from the fans & the press became too much to bear & he signalled his intention to leave this summer.

Because of this, the pressure on the club & squad was released as minds became concentrated on who & what next? Xavi started relying on the clutch of promising youth he had coming through, & suddenly things started to click after a woeful start to the campaign.

As things got better & better & Barça began climbing the table & reached the quarter finals of the CL, where a sending off turned a game they were winning & expected to win, into a bitter defeat. Everyone around Xavi was proud of his progress this season, but more because of the La Maisa bred young players who're steadily becoming the spine of his first team.

Now he's decided to stay & Barça have seen a better long-term way, it casts a shadow on the expensive ageing stars they have, including the ones they were previously targeting.

Lewandowski is a shadow of the clinical marksman he was at Bayern. Cancelo's shown what an erratic basket case he is at the highest level. They also have Romeu, Martinez, Alonso, Roberto & Gundog underpinning their younger players. This issue is they're all 30+

This is why I reckon the Barça's fans & board are willing to show patience, because they can see long-term progress as a way to success, rather than pulling levers to buy ageing Superstars as a way of returning to the top of European football.

This is where Cancelo etc come in. Is he worth what we're asking, or are Barça better off looking within & investing the money we want for Joao elsewhere on a younger prospect? Bernardo's a special case, but how much will it cost them in transfers & wages to get him?

I just get a feeling that reality has finally hit Barça & they realise that steady progress back to the top is required instead of blowing everyone out of the water with blockbuster fees & wages.

All very sensible if true.

 

[dickie davies]

This is why I reckon the Barça's fans & board are willing to show patience, because they can see long-term progress as a way to success, rather than pulling levers to buy ageing Superstars as a way of returning to the top of European football.

and they're skint

 

[Txiki Txiki Bang Bang]

It came as little surprise to me that Xavi reversed his decision to leave Barça. Knowing their days of mega money signings were over, he tried to rebuild the whole playing side of the club from the ground upward. This meant starting with La Maisa.

Following Pep's lead, Xavi looked inward to reestablish the philosophy of Cryuff from La Maisa to the first team, but the issue he faced was fans unrealistic expectations for instant success & a return to the halcyon days of Guardiola. When this wasn't achieved, the pressure from the fans & the press became too much to bear & he signalled his intention to leave this summer.

Because of this, the pressure on the club & squad was released as minds became concentrated on who & what next? Xavi started relying on the clutch of promising youth he had coming through, & suddenly things started to click after a woeful start to the campaign.

As things got better & better & Barça began climbing the table & reached the quarter finals of the CL, where a sending off turned a game they were winning & expected to win, into a bitter defeat. Everyone around Xavi was proud of his progress this season, but more because of the La Maisa bred young players who're steadily becoming the spine of his first team.

Now he's decided to stay & Barça have seen a better long-term way, it casts a shadow on the expensive ageing stars they have, including the ones they were previously targeting.

Lewandowski is a shadow of the clinical marksman he was at Bayern. Cancelo's shown what an erratic basket case he is at the highest level. They also have Romeu, Martinez, Alonso, Roberto & Gundog underpinning their younger players. This issue is they're all 30+

This is why I reckon the Barça's fans & board are willing to show patience, because they can see long-term progress as a way to success, rather than pulling levers to buy ageing Superstars as a way of returning to the top of European football.

This is where Cancelo etc come in. Is he worth what we're asking, or are Barça better off looking within & investing the money we want for Joao elsewhere on a younger prospect? Bernardo's a special case, but how much will it cost them in transfers & wages to get him?

I just get a feeling that reality has finally hit Barça & they realise that steady progress back to the top is required instead of blowing everyone out of the water with blockbuster fees & wages.

Honestly prefer that approach to be honest. Would love to see us do something similar within the next 2 seasons, a starting lineup with 4 or 5 players promoted from the academy.

 

[TonyColemansbagofapples]

I don't think too many are ready to be promoted from the academy for next season, maybe the season after. This is not the best group of EDS players.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

I don't think too many are ready to be promoted from the academy for next season, maybe the season after. This is not the best group of EDS players.

Jacob Wright is the next that might break through.

 

[TonyColemansbagofapples]

I don't think he will if we buy another holding midfielder which seems certain.

 

[Xhavenjoe]

Honestly prefer that approach to be honest. Would love to see us do something similar within the next 2 seasons, a starting lineup with 4 or 5 players promoted from the academy.

I don't think too many are ready to be promoted from the academy for next season, maybe the season after. This is not the best group of EDS players.

Probably don't have to be from this years academy but we have a lot of players on loan e.g. McAtee, Callum Doyle, that could be drafted in to bolster the squad.
Couto or Kabore, although not our academy players, would cost us nothing but are surely good enough to take some of the pressure off the " regular starters " in the domestic cups and some of lower premier league teams.
The worst scenario is that they are proved not good enough at our level but can still be sold on for a decent fee.

 

[Gaz (FMwkdsoul)]

Probably don't have to be from this years academy but we have a lot of players on loan e.g. McAtee, Callum Doyle, that could be drafted in to bolster the squad.
Couto or Kabore, although not our academy players, would cost us nothing but are surely good enough to take some of the pressure off the " regular starters " in the domestic cups and some of lower premier league teams.
The worst scenario is that they are proved not good enough at our level but can still be sold on for a decent fee.

we can only name 20 players a match day, how do you convince them not too even bring boots to the stadium 90% of the time.

 

[Xhavenjoe]

we can only name 20 players a match day, how do you convince them not too even bring boots to the stadium 90% of the time.

Every team has that problem.
The last match we played we had 2 keepers on the bench, one of them being Carson.
Its my wishful thinking maybe but one or two coming up every season and integrating into the squad wouldn't be a bad thing.
If it was McAtee next season, along with Kabore or Couto I'd be happy to see that.
If they are not capable of fitting in, then so be it and they have had their chance.
Between the last 8 teams in the champions league and this years premier league, I'd say we could supply 2 teams on ex City players alone.

 

[Gaz (FMwkdsoul)]

Every team has that problem.
The last match we played we had 2 keepers on the bench, one of them being Carson.
Its my wishful thinking maybe but one or two coming up every season and integrating into the squad wouldn't be a bad thing.
If it was McAtee next season, along with Kabore or Couto I'd be happy to see that.
If they are not capable of fitting in, then so be it and they have had their chance.
Between the last 8 teams in the champions league and this years premier league, I'd say we could supply 2 teams on ex City players alone.

Kabore maybe, Couto doubtful (he has offers from CL teams), McAtee has already done 2 seasons of that with no game time cant see him being happy about it either.

We have 3-4 players at youth level that train with the first team this season and then miss 1st team match day, getting someone who's played week in and out to step back to that? Tricky conversation in this day and age

 

[Xhavenjoe]

Kabore maybe, Couto doubtful (he has offers from CL teams), McAtee has already done 2 seasons of that with no game time cant see him being happy about it either

True and can't disagree with you but it annoys me a little when I see Morgan Rogers playing at top level and Palmer, Lavia too.

 

[Gaz (FMwkdsoul)]

True and can't disagree with you but it annoys me a little when I see Morgan Rogers playing at top level and Palmer, Lavia too.

Just the level we are at, dont have the time to give 30-50 starts to a rookie when everything counts if we wanna be there end of the season. 5-10 minutes here and there aint gonna cut it.

Kid needs a perfect storm of talent, time and patience to get an opportunity to fill a gap we NEED at that time.

 

[TonyColemansbagofapples]

True and can't disagree with you but it annoys me a little when I see Morgan Rogers playing at top level and Palmer, Lavia too.

I never saw anything in Rogers to suggest he is anywhere near good enough. That also extends to his time at WBA before he joined us.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

I never saw anything in Rogers to suggest he is anywhere near good enough. That also extends to his time at WBA before he joined us.

He didn’t stand out in our EDS. He’s always wanted to play and he’s improved as he’s gone up the leagues.

Literally the antithesis of Brandon Barker, who was really good for our EDS and then just petered out.

If there was an exact science to how youths develop into players, we’d be top of class in it. Sadly, it doesn’t exist.

 

[Xhavenjoe]

He didn’t stand out in our EDS. He’s always wanted to play and he’s improved as he’s gone up the leagues.

Literally the antithesis of Brandon Barker, who was really good for our EDS and then just petered out.

If there was an exact science to how youths develop into players, we’d be top of class in it. Sadly, it doesn’t exist.

No truer words said.
3 out of the 4 champions league semi final teams have our ex players.
Only 3 premier league teams don't have an ex City or current city player on their books ( don't ask me to name them)
The top 6 in the championship could nearly field a full eleven of ex players or lads on loan.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

No truer words said.
3 out of the 4 champions league semi final teams have our ex players.
Only 3 premier league teams don't have an ex City or current city player on their books ( don't ask me to name them)
The top 6 in the championship could nearly field a full eleven of ex players or lads on loan.

There’s that stat about Stoke having had ex players in CL semi finals doing the rounds.