Joao Cancelo | Al Hilal Player

I dont disagree with you that he should be allowed to play football BUT we shouldnt bend over backwards to accommodate him because he has put himself in this position with his attitude.

We did it once last season when for whatever reason he had a fallout with pep and we allowed him to go on loan to a cl competitor even tho there was nothing beneficial in it for us and what did he do , he once again showed an appallingly bad attitude at bayern and they didnt want to buy him and now we are stuck with him and whats to say he goes to barcelona for nothing, we pay 30% of his wages and he ends up back with us next season because his attitude has struck again which it almost certainly will.

What i am saying is that we owe him nothing, he is being paid alot of money and if he continues to show an attitude that precludes him from being part of our squad then we dont have to acquiesce to barcas demands because he is being a little brat and wants to move where he wants.
A lot of this is subjective and unknown we don’t know what happened to cause this situation and we don’t know what the figures are in terms of transfers loans wages and what they should be is subjective.

You say you don’t disagree that he shouldnt be stopped from playing but if no one buys or loans him and we do as you wish and don’t put him in the squad then that’s exactly what will have happened
 
i want someone to buy or loan him what i am saying is that i dont believe we should bend over backwards to make that happen if its not beneficial for us
 
I am confused I don’t think your argument makes sense. He hasn’t refused to play if he did action would be taken against him.

Not sure how much help we are giving him to find a club a lot of the work will be done by his agent. But perhaps we will be flexible but it will also help us as we do not want him or is wages.

The point is players have to be allowed to do there jobs which is play football not just train or play with the youth or sit on the bench or they need to be able to find work elsewhere on loan or by being sold.

Imagine you had a falling out with your boss imagine if you went to work everyday got paid but your boss told you you can sit at that desk do not do anything. He is still honoring your contract you’re being paid. You’re still honoring it by turning up. But at some point you would be get fed up and find a new job or sue for constructive dismissal and win. Cancelo cannot find another job like we can unless we allow him to leave hence players have to have a the clause In the contract.

I don’t fully understand what’s happened with him and I liked him as a player

He might be a dick he might have brought this on himself we shouldn’t give him an easy time but he has to be able to play football at some point
He doesn't have to play football with us though, he can be in the squad (he already is) but we don't have to include him in the matchday squad, let alone put him on the bench or play him. You don't think City are trying to move him on?
 
it’s in everyone’s interests to make this happen. He wants to play, we want him off the wage bill and Barca want a high quality player.
We’re just waiting to see who blinks first
 
He doesn't have to play football with us though, he can be in the squad (he already is) but we don't have to include him in the matchday squad, let alone put him on the bench or play him. You don't think City are trying to move him on?
Did I say we are not trying to move him on ?

If he is not sold or loaned and is then in the squad but never makes a single match day squad then we are stopping him playing his job is to play football not train or hang about or be on squad lists etc he has to be allowed to play his trade

Your clearly not understanding this or what I am saying
 
I think if Txiki is smart.. he could make sure there is a De Gea fax issue with Cancelo's transfer and then ship him off the saudis so we never see him again.
 
Barca currently have a defence of Alonso, Garcia, Kounde and Sergi Roberto.

When Cancelo goes there the Barca fans will think it's the return of Messi.
 
Did I say we are not trying to move him on ?

If he is not sold or loaned and is then in the squad but never makes a single match day squad then we are stopping him playing his job is to play football not train or hang about or be on squad lists etc he has to be allowed to play his trade

Your clearly not understanding this or what I am saying
They're your posts, make them more intelligible then.

You still seem to think that if he doesn't go then we have to play him. No, we really don't.
 
They're your posts, make them more intelligible then.

You still seem to think that if he doesn't go then we have to play him. No, we really don't.
So you agree he has to be allowed to play football but if we don’t move him on we don’t have to play him mmm seems a bit of a contradiction ?

Nothing wrong with my posts just yours

Again please tel me where I said we are not trying to move him on unlike what you said ?
 

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