Joao Cancelo | Al Hilal Player

[decmancity]

just because a player is under contract, we are not obliged to put him in the squad, nor are we obliged to sell him at terms that are not acceptable to us, he can train with the kids or by himself.

City dont need to be a charity to either him or barcelona, he got himself into this mess with his actions and attitude and as a grown up its on him to deal with that, barcelona got themselves into the mess as a business through their own criminal mismanagement and general terrible behaviour and now its on them to deal with that.

Thats harsh but thats reality.

Zero chance Pep is going to accept him hanging around. Its just not happening. No point talking about hypotheticals.

Barca are pulling levers and selling deadwood and they want to save themselves a few weeks of wages. Cancelo will be there by end of the transfer window.

 

[mancboy]

Zero chance Pep is going to accept him hanging around. Its just not happening. No point talking about hypotheticals.

Barca are pulling levers and selling deadwood and they want to save themselves a few weeks of wages. Cancelo will be there by end of the transfer window.

and they can have him, i just dont want us to offer a charity deal to barcelona as they would throw us under the bus in a heartbeat and have repeatedly tried, they reap what they sow

 

[decmancity]

and they can have him, i just dont want us to offer a charity deal to barcelona as they would throw us under the bus in a heartbeat and have repeatedly tried, they reap what they sow

We have backed ourselves into a corner with Cancelo so whatever the deal is why would anyone be arsed. The most important thing is that hes gone. Him going isn't going to impact us in any way. Barca couldn't afford to get on the bus, never mind try to throw us under it.

 

[Coatigan]

Zero chance Pep is going to accept him hanging around. Its just not happening. No point talking about hypotheticals.

Barca are pulling levers and selling deadwood and they want to save themselves a few weeks of wages. Cancelo will be there by end of the transfer window.

Bang on with the first part.

I'm still betting they wont be paying his wages. Not in full.

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

and they can have him, i just dont want us to offer a charity deal to barcelona as they would throw us under the bus in a heartbeat and have repeatedly tried, they reap what they sow

Cancelo himself is the one who has fucked us up on his transfer fee.

If he hadn't proved himself to be a total ****, this situation wouldn't have arisen.

Get him off the wages/books and moved on to somebody else must be the priority as far as the club is concerned.

 

[Mr Ed (The Stables)]

The transfer window in the Saudi League runs for another 3 weeks after our window shuts so I'm sure he'll be leaving one way or another:-)

 

[waspish]

The transfer window in the Saudi League runs for another 3 weeks after our window shuts so I'm sure he'll be leaving one way or another:-)

Yep if Barcelona don't agree on an obligation we should tell them forget it and then Cancelo will only have two choices go to the Saudi league or stay at home and train with the u21

 

[blue b4 the moon]

Yep if Barcelona don't agree on an obligation we should tell them forget it and then Cancelo will only have two choices go to the Saudi league or stay at home and train with the u21

Yep there's some international shit going on next summer I believe, he'll bite the bullet and bugger off to KSA if he has too.

Fuck taking one up the backside and giving Barca an easy ride.

 

[WRicko]

i honestly dont know but it would seem absolutely ridiculous that we are contractually obliged to put every single player under contract in the squad?

Conversely we could put him the squad and literally never put him in the matchday squad, i have no sympathy for him, he is in the position that he is in entirely because of his attitude and i dont believe city should hold any obligation to help him out, he is a grown man being paid an exorbitant wage to do a job and if his ego and attitude prohibits his ability to do that its not the businesses obligation to help him, could you imagine if any of us decided we didnt want to come to work today because we didnt like the manager or the work the manager was asking us to do we felt that it was beneath us, we wouldnt last the week never mind be helped to find work at another place of our choosing.

I am confused I don’t think your argument makes sense. He hasn’t refused to play if he did action would be taken against him.

Not sure how much help we are giving him to find a club a lot of the work will be done by his agent. But perhaps we will be flexible but it will also help us as we do not want him or is wages.

The point is players have to be allowed to do there jobs which is play football not just train or play with the youth or sit on the bench or they need to be able to find work elsewhere on loan or by being sold.

Imagine you had a falling out with your boss imagine if you went to work everyday got paid but your boss told you you can sit at that desk do not do anything. He is still honoring your contract you’re being paid. You’re still honoring it by turning up. But at some point you would be get fed up and find a new job or sue for constructive dismissal and win. Cancelo cannot find another job like we can unless we allow him to leave hence players have to have a the clause In the contract.

I don’t fully understand what’s happened with him and I liked him as a player

He might be a dick he might have brought this on himself we shouldn’t give him an easy time but he has to be able to play football at some point

 

[mancboy]

I am confused I don’t think your argument makes sense. He hasn’t refused to play if he did action would be taken against him.

Not sure how much help we are giving him to find a club a lot of the work will be done by his agent. But perhaps we will be flexible but it will also help us as we do not want him or is wages.

The point is players have to be allowed to do there jobs which is play football not just train or play with the youth or sit on the bench or they need to be able to find work elsewhere on loan or by being sold.

Imagine you had a falling out with your boss imagine if you went to work everyday got paid but your boss told you you can sit at that desk do not do anything. He is still honoring your contract you’re being paid. You’re still honoring it by turning up. But at some point you would be get fed up and find a new job or sue for constructive dismissal and win. Cancelo cannot find another job like we can unless we allow him to leave hence players have to have a the clause In the contract.

I don’t fully understand what’s happened with him and I liked him as a player

He might be a dick he might have brought this on himself we shouldn’t give him an easy time but he has to be able to play football at some point

I dont disagree with you that he should be allowed to play football BUT we shouldnt bend over backwards to accommodate him because he has put himself in this position with his attitude.

We did it once last season when for whatever reason he had a fallout with pep and we allowed him to go on loan to a cl competitor even tho there was nothing beneficial in it for us and what did he do , he once again showed an appallingly bad attitude at bayern and they didnt want to buy him and now we are stuck with him and whats to say he goes to barcelona for nothing, we pay 30% of his wages and he ends up back with us next season because his attitude has struck again which it almost certainly will.

What i am saying is that we owe him nothing, he is being paid alot of money and if he continues to show an attitude that precludes him from being part of our squad then we dont have to acquiesce to barcas demands because he is being a little brat and wants to move where he wants.