PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[Gingers Dad]

Wolves fans making money hand signs yesterday. They’d fucking love it if their club had the investment our club has had, and the trophies or club has won. That goes for all the away fans who keep on making the money hand signs. Love it! :-)

It's like that Paddy Power ad

 

[Mcfc1.9.8.0]

I have previously said on the matter, that imo Simon Stone saying 'I'll tread lightly for now' when discussing the charges is more of a suggestion of it being true, than either goldbridge or evans being flippant about it. But even that is just reading into it and speculation.

There is a big difference between that, and taking it as proof and claiming it as fact. And there is also a heck of a leap between pointing that out, and calling @tolmie's hairdoo a liar or arguing I don't believe letters might have been sent out.

And that is the problem. A complete lack of balance, greys and anything inbetween the two.

I just think everyone who mention the charges on a weekly basis especially when city are doing well have all gone quiet and all at the same time.

You’ll never get 100% fact unless someone post the letter somewhere on social media so it just what ever you believe or not believe at the end of the day

 

[M12Blue]

Absolutely, and I haven't been given the list of names, either.

Others may want to claim or piggyback.

I haven't asserted we have been cleared, only the legals being sent are said to be from a position of strength, which would suggest we have a high degree of confidence.

Absolutely, there's no way we get bullish with the press otherwise. Be absolute suicide if we did and the PL win

 

[Coatigan]

Absolutely, and I haven't been given the list of names, either.

Others may want to claim or piggyback.

I haven't asserted we have been cleared, only the legals being sent are said to be from a position of strength, which would suggest we have a high degree of confidence.

I know, I responded to one post by someone that claimed this proves we have been cleared, and a bunch of people jumped on my back. It's all good.

 

[Stoned Rose]

It alludes to it though, which is kind of the point.

Or do you just not like the poster in question?

Don’t know the poster mate.

 

[Stoned Rose]

As with the other post, that tweet from the scouse **** doesn’t “prove” anything.

Like the other post, it alludes to the possibility letters have been sent out, but does not prove they have

 

[GortonBlue62]

I know. I don’t want or need proof.

But I am 100% right in saying there is no proof out there, and people claiming there is and that proves we have been cleares are 100% wrong.

Two reasonably reliable and well regarded members of this forum, @tolmie's hairdoo and @Prestwich_Blue, who both have good track records on this subject, have indicated that there is a high degree of confidence within the club that City will beat the allegations.

On the 'balance of probabilities' I'd say that was reaon for cautious optimism.

Your talk about the presence or absence of 'proof' is irrelevant nonsense.

 

[Stoned Rose]

It does feel like some kind of concussion to this nonsense is starting to happen

Bit of an headache mate?

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

It will become apparent in the days and weeks ahead whether these letters have been sent out, and to what extent, if and when the current (perceived or otherwise) change in mood music continues.

If things continue along the same lines (as I strongly suspect they will) then we’ll know the answer, surely.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Bit of an headache mate?

No need to make such a trauma of it.

 

[Atypical]

It does feel like some kind of concussion to this nonsense is starting to happen

Knockout.

 

[daveoswald]

It wasn’t aimed at you, Coatign. It was a general comment. I don’t think anyone in their right minds would expect anyone receiving the letter, if they have received the letter, to go public about it.

Only Evans has really alluded to something via his City hating spleen, and Goldbridge via his uncomfortable silence, squirm in his seat, and saying he doesn’t want to comment about 115 anymore.

More than uncomfortable silence by Goldbridge jrb, i have seen the clip on youtube, Goldbridge quite clearly states that he has been legally threatened.

 

[jimmygrimblesboots]

We are going to get penalised for non co-operation , its the only thing the Premier league have to save face , we have been accused of fraud on a grand scale involving multi-national companies , these companies will not open their accounts for the Premier to peruse , it will never happen.
So the fact the Premier league cannot retrieve the information they need the non co-operation is the only stick to beat us with , Masters and his cohorts have no juristricition outside the football world they are not the law and they will look like fools at the conclusion of this witch hunt.
We will get a hefty fine similar to the CAS verdict which will give the ammuntion for pundits to state we must have done something wrong , which was basically the same premise the media used with the UEFA charges
We keep out titles , cups , records , manager , players , was looking forward to a trip to Haig Avenue and an enthralling game against the mighty Sandgrounders (Southport F.C.) but alas it looks like the Beranbeu and Allianz Arena awaits.

 

[Coatigan]

Because you're claiming nobody has received any when someone affirms that they've been given out.
There's a soundbite, from Goldbridge himself, stating he "doesn't want to talk about 115 anymore, not just because City have threatened legal action". This is central to the discussion currently about City being in a position of strength and what it could possibly mean.

If you don't want to believe it, fine, but you can't expect to start demanding proof from others who find these recent speculative developments to hold weight, when you have none to provide yourself in counter, can you.

Look at the Daily Mail's reaction; rumours abound on the internet that City's charges have been dropped, and they come out with "no they haven't!" without providing any proof to deny other than "MIke Keegan says not".

Again, a total failure on your part, in even the basic ability to just read. I'm sorry, but this is not a worthehile conversation for me.

 

[cibaman]

This makes it even more interesting, if it pans out that the the bulk of the breaches quoted are time barred then two questions need to be asked.
1. The investigation took 4 years to compile 115 breaches, so why were the charges not brought forward earlier?
2. If the PL genuinely believe they have a solid case that they believe in then would they be prepared to go down the route of quoting fraud?

I really hope that if the bulk of the charges are time barred that we as a club make a crystal clear statement that what we were being accused of was fraud, and it is the PL who wouldn't go down this route of investigation and not MCFC.

The Pl would have to be monumentally inept to bring charges that are clearly time barred. Are their lawyers really so incompetent?

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

It does feel like some kind of concussion to this nonsense is starting to happen

Are you Hylda Baker in disguise?

 

[Metal Biker]

Again, a total failure on your part, in even the basic ability to just read. I'm sorry, but this is not a worthehile conversation for me.

That's what most people who are wrong tend to say.

It's sunny outside, bru, don't be so bothered about people's opinions on this thread.

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

Regardless of the letters, could it be that certain outlets have heard that City have argued the case to a sufficient degree that the case has no merit?

 

[journolud]

Two reasonably reliable and well regarded members of this forum, @tolmie's hairdoo and @Prestwich_Blue, who both have good track records on this subject, have indicated that there is a high degree of confidence within the club that City will beat the allegations.

On the 'balance of probabilities' I'd say that was reaon for cautious optimism.

Your talk about the presence or absence of 'proof' is irrelevant nonsense.

I’ve dipped in and out a bit but I thought he was saying there was a lack of proof about the alleged letters. While I’m inclined to believe they may have been sent and that this is an indication that we will be cleared of the charges it is all still speculative until we are told for def

 

[Coatigan]

It's sunny outside, bru, don't be so bothered about people's opinions on this ththread.

That's what people that run away with ott conclusions based on an inability to underatand a few sentences tend to say.