PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

paulchapo said:
I like Tolmie but didn't he get the cease and desist letters information wrong? Is this new information or just rehashing what the club has said all along?
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To be fair, we need someone to stand in our corner with positivity, especially with all the negative shite being thrown at us.
 
DMA's said:
As a long time reader of this board I really like tolmie and enjoying reading his posts. However I can’t help but feel recently he just posts ambiguous stuff on Twitter to try and farm reactions. Throw enough shit and some of it will stick approach.
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That post has a whiff of certainty about it imo, like he's heard something reliable rather than being spurious.
 
Cityfan1977 said:
yes and that is not talked about enough , it is crusial in both these cases.
Why did UEFA charge City with completely lost case. There lawers must have known
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It was all political. UEFA used the legal process as a political tool and always have done that in the past. The PL leadership urged on by LFC, MUFC, Spurs, and Arsenal have made the same mistake. They think the sheer volume of charges is just a lever to curb City’s spending. Evidence doesn’t come into it because clubs always settle. Khaldoon has called their bluff.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
I think the Advertising Standards Agency was held to be a public body, but that was because they were performing a function that the state would if it didn’t exist.

The leading case on this point is:
en.wikipedia.org

R (Datafin plc) v Panel on Take-overs and Mergers - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org


In fact I’ve just found a case R v Football Association ex p Football League Ltd [1993] 2 All E.R. which held that football associations are not subject to JR even though they have monopolistic powers.

So I think it’s pretty clear! :-)
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Has there been any legislation on this since then?
Do we know what powers the regulator will have?
 
paulchapo said:
He did and he was right. To quote the great Mahatma Gandhi, " First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win."

The redshirts rested on their laurels convinced their unchallenged success would never end. "Noisy neighbours" as Ferguson said. By the time they awoke from their slumber it was too late. We were streets ahead and sailing off into the distance. The only way to halt our progress was to bum rush ffp through, hack our database and mount a sustained relentless media slur campaign.
I hope it we're successful in our case that we pursue our enemies with no mercy.
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Paulchapo

Did a Uni piece in ancient times and used this quote which I’ve always loved. Many think It it came from a a US Union guy at the start of WW1.
Only added to your post coz of its ‘attack and burn’ and ‘monuments’ references which I think is really relevant to where we are and hopefully where we’re going.
Hope you don’t think I’m marking your homework coz I’m actually too stupid to do that. :)

And, my friends, in this story you have a history of this entire movement. First they ignore you. Then they ridicule you. And then they attack you and want to burn you. And then they build monuments to you. And that, is what is going to happen to the Amalgamated Clothing Workers of America.
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kippaxwarrior said:
The media have changed their tune from saying were guilty to saying the charges are casting a shadow over the club.


This was always going to happen that the charges would be brought up again after we won the league. Pretty much everyone predicted that on here
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Agree with this. The charges are still being mentioned but in the big outlets the assumption of City’s guilt has reduced. The tone has changed and the pressure is on the PL to sort it out. Personally I believe there has been some form of communication to the main media groups. The freelance loons continue to rant but they have no influence.
 
bobbyowenquiff said:
It was all political. UEFA used the legal process as a political tool and always have done that in the past. The PL leadership urged on by LFC, MUFC, Spurs, and Arsenal have made the same mistake. They think the sheer volume of charges is just a lever to curb City’s spending. Evidence doesn’t come into it because clubs always settle. Khaldoon has called their bluff.
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The Super League has been a symptom of Uefa being pushed by other clubs to stop City via the Der Spiegal articles. Since it’s been holed beneath the water line and legislation has been passed to stop any English clubs joining any break away league, 115 charges is their last attempt to fuck City over as they have run out of road on what they can do to the club on their financial fair play rules.
 
halfcenturyup said:
I still think the PL proceeded because the club put them in a no-win situation: the club didn't provide the evidence to the investigation that the whole world knows exists (because it was largely presented at CAS) because the PL didn't have the right to demand it - the external information from Mancini, Toure, ADUG Etihad, Etisalat and the rest.

So what could the PL do? Drop the case and set a terrible precedent, or continue with the case and suffer (hopefully) a terrible loss.

Choose the form of the Destructor!

Brilliantly done by the club.
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I still believe the cartel clubs & the EPL had jumped on the back of UEFA 2 year ban & when it was overturned by CAS they wanted it to quietly go away.

it was all or nothing when the independent regulator green paper was annonced
 
feedmpenzaandhewillscore said:
The Super League has been a symptom of Uefa being pushed by other clubs to stop City via the Der Spiegal articles. Since it’s been holed beneath the water line and legislation has been passed to stop any English clubs joining any break away league, 115 charges is their last attempt to fuck City over as they have run out of road on what they can do to the club on their financial fair play rules.
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I asm noot sure about that. The Superleague has come against a backdrop of financial problems for those clubs tht want the Superleague. City are part of that agreed. They do not like us making and taking all the profits. Their fans would defintaly want a superleague now though.
I suspect if they tried for it again the fans would embrace it.
 
bobbyowenquiff said:
Agree with this. The charges are still being mentioned but in the big outlets the assumption of City’s guilt has reduced. The tone has changed and the pressure is on the PL to sort it out. Personally I believe there has been some form of communication to the main media groups. The freelance loons continue to rant but they have no influence.
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The Telegraph must be the most negative outlet , especially that idiot Liew. It seems to have gone up several notches since the government stopped the consortium including Sheik Mansour purchasing them
 
KS55 said:
Wasn’t it Khaldoon who told the redshirts not to blame City for their failure?
So many of the mancheaty brigade really have no idea just how badly clubs have been run in the past, and many, eg the rags, still are run like a sweet shop. City come along, manage the thing like a proper company and bingo, we win so we must be cheating.
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American owners who see the NFL as a cash-cow. If the ground is becoming dilapidated, they just move to a new City & are greated with open arms. These same owners wanted the same with premiership clubs, skimming as much as possible off the budget & hate that Sheikh Mansour pours all the revenues that City make back into MCFC.
 
Said it from start to finish, this was nothing more than a fishing expedition, if there was any kind of serious idea to curb city they would not have gone with 115 charges as that was always going to be impossible to prove, this was all about tarnishing city to appease their own fans and make them blame city rather than themselves, absolute classic misdirection right out of yank business 101 and like has already been mentioned they didnt expect city to call their bluff
 
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