PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

I watched a podcast last night and Trevor Sinclair was on and he was saying when he worked in Abu Dhabi there was a tussel between Qatar and Abu Dhabi for the rights over who gets to show the Premier League and the champions league.
Abu Dhabi got the Premier League, Qatar the champions league.

Then when it came to renegotiation Qatar bought both rights for the PL and CL, severely pissing Abu Dhabi off and in the process making 100s redundant, Including Sinclair.

I never knew all this happened until I watched this. Isn't there a Qatar member of PSG on the board at UEFA? I'm kind of joining the dots here and wondering if they had anything to do with the Uefa case with us?

I have a feeling this has already been apologies if so, but I wonder if any of these keyboard warriors on twitter calling themselves journalists are on the payroll of something connected to Qatar and all these allegations and mud slinging originates from as mentioned Qatar?

Hmm.
 
manimanc said:
I watched a podcast last night and Trevor Sinclair was on and he was saying when he worked in Abu Dhabi there was a tussel between Qatar and Abu Dhabi for the rights over who gets to show the Premier League and the champions league.
Abu Dhabi got the Premier League, Qatar the champions league.

Then when it came to renegotiation Qatar bought both rights for the PL and CL, severely pissing Abu Dhabi off and in the process making 100s redundant, Including Sinclair.

I never knew all this happened until I watched this. Isn't there a Qatar member of PSG on the board at UEFA? I'm kind of joining the dots here and wondering if they had anything to do with the Uefa case with us?

I have a feeling this has already been apologies if so, but I wonder if any of these keyboard warriors on twitter calling themselves journalists are on the payroll of something connected to Qatar and all these allegations and mud slinging originates from as mentioned Qatar?

Hmm.
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While i do love a good conspiracy theory, you have to understand the culture, thats the way the yanks do business, its not really the way of the world in arab countries as far as i understand it, the mud slinging is more of a yank thing.
 
the_chinaman said:
Huh? Not everyone posts continually. I post when motivated, or stirred by a knob head post...
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No issues with that, there are loads of posters like that. However when someone who hasn't posted in 10 years suddenly becomes very active in a thread like this one and keeps pushing punishments and relegation, it doesn't take a genius to work out what their true motives are.
 
give it to gordon said:
Wow what's happened to this thread ? All of a sudden members who haven't posted in years or a very low post account, or new members are full of doom. All that's happened is a post from a respected ITK saying City to be cleared. This seems to have triggered some doom and gloom 'City' fans in thinking the opposite !

I'll admit I don't trust the pl or ic, just look at the post office scandal or the blood scandal. But I can't see for one minute us being

It's not just City being accused of fraud, it's members of their Royal Family, depty PM, CEO of huge companies and well respected accounting firms.
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Sleeper cells being triggered after realising the 4 in a row seals and decides all arguments. That and the fact we're playing the pond life this weekend
 
Maly said:
I’ll raise you a King Kenny

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Off topic, but that photo brought back happy memories of him amazingly scoring a breakaway goal, rounding the Sheffield Utd keeper like a centre forward. Everyone was laughing as much as they were cheering at the shock of him scoring at all, never mind in such style.
 
HalfwayUpTheKippax said:
Off topic, but that photo brought back happy memories of him amazingly scoring a breakaway goal, rounding the Sheffield Utd keeper like a centre forward. Everyone was laughing as much as they were cheering at the shock of him scoring at all, never mind in such style.
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He did his forward roll right in front of us at the North Stand end of the Kippax. A truly unforgettable moment. Good lad was Kenny Clements.
 
HalfwayUpTheKippax said:
Off topic, but that photo brought back happy memories of him amazingly scoring a breakaway goal, rounding the Sheffield Utd keeper like a centre forward. Everyone was laughing as much as they were cheering at the shock of him scoring at all, never mind in such style.
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I seem to remember him scoring a cracking diving header at the Platt Lane end in his 2nd stint. Only problem is, I can’t remember if it was an OG or not :)
 
manimanc said:
I watched a podcast last night and Trevor Sinclair was on and he was saying when he worked in Abu Dhabi there was a tussel between Qatar and Abu Dhabi for the rights over who gets to show the Premier League and the champions league.
Abu Dhabi got the Premier League, Qatar the champions league.

Then when it came to renegotiation Qatar bought both rights for the PL and CL, severely pissing Abu Dhabi off and in the process making 100s redundant, Including Sinclair.

I never knew all this happened until I watched this. Isn't there a Qatar member of PSG on the board at UEFA? I'm kind of joining the dots here and wondering if they had anything to do with the Uefa case with us?

I have a feeling this has already been apologies if so, but I wonder if any of these keyboard warriors on twitter calling themselves journalists are on the payroll of something connected to Qatar and all these allegations and mud slinging originates from as mentioned Qatar?

Hmm.
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I don't think so. They are just eejits. Oops ....
 
I do believe we'll be found innocent of all serious charges, but ,the premier league, may charge us with non cooperation, on certain things, which isn't an admission of guilt by the way. What I would like to see,if that happens, is a detailed document explaining the reasons why, so they can't be interpreted, by all the agenda seeking tossers to suit their narrative.
 
colinbellsboy said:
I do believe we'll be found innocent of all serious charges, but ,the premier league, may charge us with non cooperation, on certain things, which isn't an admission of guilt by the way. What I would like to see,if that happens, is a detailed document explaining the reasons why, so they can't be interpreted, by all the agenda seeking tossers to suit their narrative.
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And that is what you will get if they find us guilty of any of the charges there has to be documented reasoning as to why they have found us guilty of that specifically.
 
colinbellsboy said:
I do believe we'll be found innocent of all serious charges, but ,the premier league, may charge us with non cooperation, on certain things, which isn't an admission of guilt by the way. What I would like to see,if that happens, is a detailed document explaining the reasons why, so they can't be interpreted, by all the agenda seeking tossers to suit their narrative.
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That would be nice but then we would have to assume they would actually read the document. Not just smash their heads into the keyboard while shouting about corruption. CAS said no evidence. Still pleeeeeeenty of morons out there saying it was brown envelopes and it was only time barring.
 
StillBluessinceHydeRoad said:
Last year I remember Tolmie saying with certainty that Erling was coming to City. There were those who believed him and those who most certainly did not and were keen to make sure everyone knew it. Gradually Tolmie explained that he knew this not because of something he'd heard but because of something he had seen. Some time after Erling had signed he explained that he had seen forms concerning his medical insurance. This tells us that Tolmie is not an animated ventriloquist's dummy who simply repeats willy nilly what he hears but someone with contacts who listens and then evaluates it as evidence. This tweet is very definite, Tolmie is very sure and even though he hasn't identified the source we all know Tolmie well enough to know that we would be very wise to take it very seriously. I am certain one of the first things Tolmie has asked is if his source(s) is/are in a position to know or express a valid opinion and he must be satisfied on this point. Does experience show their opinion to be an informed and trustworthy one? If Tolmie is satisfied that the source is both credible and reliable. That doesn't mean that what Tolmie says will inevitably come to pass but it is to be taken seriously and is very encouraging. From me, and many others, thank you Tolmiw.
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Personally i will always remember his clues about David Silva signing for us - "oranges and lemons" was the clue, which was a reference to Valencia's well established and renowned growing for said citrus fruits in that region of Spain!
 
Colin Bell (genuine name) said:
NO EVIDENCE. That was the formal verdict at CAS, the Court of Arbitration for Sport.

NO EVIDENCE means exactly that, NO EVIDENCE. It does not mean that there was lots of evidence and just not enough to convict or that there was a little bit of evidence but nothing near enough to convict. NO EVIDENCE quite clearly means NO EVIDENCE, nil, nada, nothing.

CAS quite categorically stated that there was NO EVIDENCE a number of times(I think it was ten times) and in fact our fine, in a nutshell was for wasting time of the court, as they believed that, had we presented our “Irrefutable evidence” to the UEFA investigative committee, then UEFA would also have been satisfied that there was NO EVIDENCE.

The Premier League opened their investigation into City in March 2019, the day after UEFA started their investigation and it took them nearly 4 years to bring charges, in fact, nearly 3 years after the CAS verdict and coincidentally the day before the Government announced an independent regulator.

City said the charges came as a “complete surprise” which suggests to me that not only do The Premier League have nothing new to present but that the Premier League were also forced to act due to pressure from the cartel clubs.

So no I don’t think any of us are ‘eejits’, I think the vast majority of us trust our owners, their position and their confidence that our name will be cleared.

I also believe that City will not accept a non cooperation settlement as they want to draw a line under this once and for all, hence Tolmie’s “no more ambiguity” quip.
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You don't post often, but if it's more gold like this, you should. :)
 
manimanc said:
I watched a podcast last night and Trevor Sinclair was on and he was saying when he worked in Abu Dhabi there was a tussel between Qatar and Abu Dhabi for the rights over who gets to show the Premier League and the champions league.
Abu Dhabi got the Premier League, Qatar the champions league.

Then when it came to renegotiation Qatar bought both rights for the PL and CL, severely pissing Abu Dhabi off and in the process making 100s redundant, Including Sinclair.

I never knew all this happened until I watched this. Isn't there a Qatar member of PSG on the board at UEFA? I'm kind of joining the dots here and wondering if they had anything to do with the Uefa case with us?

I have a feeling this has already been apologies if so, but I wonder if any of these keyboard warriors on twitter calling themselves journalists are on the payroll of something connected to Qatar and all these allegations and mud slinging originates from as mentioned Qatar?

Hmm.
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There's every chance. I wrote the following commentary a week or so ago regarding Keys' constant criticism of us on Bein Sports. It gives a bit of background around UAE vs Qatar politics as I've lived and worked in both countries. I've also worked in Kuwait which is usually the mediator between the two so I've lived all three viewpoints - pro UAE, pro Qatar, neutral Kuwait. If you think the press here is editorially biased (they are, of course), you should read some Arab national dailies - they're just the same. I can give more detail if you want.

Joe Corrigan's Superstitions said:
I think you have to take into account that Keys is doing his master's bidding when he says stuff like this. In the same way as the red top journalists are permanently promoting the red shirts and anti-blue bcause that's what their editor tells them to do, Bein Sports is Qatari owned and operated so will be critical of anything that is UAE or KSA operated. Their under-performing darling is PSG but when Mbappe leaves, that's over.

I lived in Qatar for 7 years and the UAE 2 years. There is no love lost between those countries. Saudi and the UAE see Qatar as a johnny-come-lately upstart stealing their limelight and they hate it. Qatar getting the world cup was the last straw and I was living in Qatar when the UAE and KSA illegally blockaded the country effectively trying to starve the country to death and destroy its economy. It was openly stated that if Qatar rescinded the world cup, the blockade would be lifted.

The American owned clubs have their generic anti-Arab agenda, but within the Arab world, you have a secondary sub-agenda of Qatar having to prevent itself being invaded by its more powerful neighbours. They fight back through a combination of strategic military alliances (ironically, mostly with the USA) and high profile companies, events and media. Keys is one of their flag-waving paid puppets.

It's why they were so keen to buy the rags. Nothing to do with wanting a return on investment; it would have been purely about making a team owned by a Qatari more succesful than a team primarily owned by an Emirati. They failed with PSG at European level so it was a chance to change tactics and instead compete at domestic level.

Arab politics is all about who's got the best tribe and the most resources; honestly nothing's changed since T.E Lawrence ran the show (and caused all of today's issues by giving the Saud family the most resources in the first place, depending what version of events you choose to believe).
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