PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

Gremlin said:
Just an observation but if the Magic hat guy is in America wouldn't he be calling us 'Assholes' and not 'Arseholes' as in the previous tweet?
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I also find it implausible that anyone studying the case in depth wouldn’t have come across Blue Moon forum at least once and thought, “could there be anything of interest there”?

But old Magic Hat first heard of it in his exchange with Nick.

And he couldn’t believe that his mates down at the football all were of the the opinion “City would get off with it”. That sounds distinctly un-American to me.
 
Anyone remember back in the day, around the time of the original FFP rules and the UEFA charges, another Arsenal fan set himself up as some sort of FFP expert/guru.
Set up his own website (something like financialfairplay.com)
He managed to wangle a few gigs on Talksport off the back of it, but got absolutely schooled off a load of City fans as having not a scooby about what he was talking about, to the point where he had to re-write his website numerous times.
Turned out he worked in something like finance for HSBC and had no experience in Accountancy, or had the slightest clue what IAS24 was, etc.
I did wonder if this magic hat person was a re-incarnation of this previous guy.
 
Paladin said:
I read it through as well. How does Nick know what evidence the PL doesn't have? If Nick knows some damning evidence exists, why doesn't he tell the PL about it?

He seems a bit of a fantasist, and for a journalist, he isn't very good with his spelling.

The video shows the Magic Hat guy and Harris held online chats at 1am, 9pm, and 2:30am over various days. Harris is known to go online at these unearthly hours. If the Magic Hat guy is in America, the equivalent times in the UK are 6am, 2am and 7:30am. It is very strange that the two of them should be simultaneously online at 1am (Hat) and 6am (Harris), 9pm (Hat) and 2am (Harris), 2:30am (Hat) and 7:30am (Harris). (The second chat is not inconceivable). It is very unlikely that two people in the the same time zone are simultaneously online at 1am and 2:30am inside a period of just a few days. It is more credible that one person is the author of both conversations.
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You need to change your name to Columbo. ;-)
 
Paladin said:
I read it through as well. How does Nick know what evidence the PL doesn't have? If Nick knows some damning evidence exists, why doesn't he tell the PL about it?

He seems a bit of a fantasist, and for a journalist, he isn't very good with his spelling.

The video shows the Magic Hat guy and Harris held online chats at 1am, 9pm, and 2:30am over various days. Harris is known to go online at these unearthly hours. If the Magic Hat guy is in America, the equivalent times in the UK are 6am, 2am and 7:30am. It is very strange that the two of them should be simultaneously online at 1am (Hat) and 6am (Harris), 9pm (Hat) and 2am (Harris), 2:30am (Hat) and 7:30am (Harris). (The second chat is not inconceivable). It is very unlikely that two people in the the same time zone are simultaneously online at 1am and 2:30am inside a period of just a few days. It is more credible that one person is the author of both conversations.
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bridgeno1 said:
Ok I'll explain why I think 20 points is a likely outcome. It's a penalty that is severe enough to be significant (and outweigh the penalties given to Forest and Everton, meaning fans of other clubs can shut up about City not having to take their medicine) whilst simultaneously not actually affecting City that much as with a 20 point deduction they are likely to still qualify for the CL etc.

My hypothesis is based on how businesses operate. Also regarding guilt or otherwise - there are shades of grey always when it comes to legal proceedings and even if you know you are totally innocent there's always the fear that the court/jury etc don't see it that way - maybe the opposition lawyer spins a great story, maybe there's inherent bias on the part of the jury etc.

Which is why I think they won't want to risk it. They'll take a penalty 'in the interests of putting the matter to bed' whilst simultaneously maintaining innocence and stating dissatisfaction with the whole process, both sides move on, and in a couple of years the City fans sit back with popcorn watching Chelsea get bent over a desk by the PL before they go in dry.

All opinion, probably worth fuck all, I've absolutely zero inside info etc.
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Yesterday you said you had heard and read that City were going to get a 20 point deduction. And today you said you have no inside knowledge and it's just your opinion.

Where have you heard and read about the 20pt deduction, that has formed the basis of your opinion?

You could, if you wanted to, have also read the CAS judgement and come to the conclusion that City will be found innocent and that the PL are infact carrying out a witch hunt.

But you chose the former didn't you. That is why you are biased.
 
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dickie davies said:
Actually, it is true
Friends of ours emigrated to Australia around 20 years ago
My daughter (27 years old) posted pics on Instagram of us at the parade and the Dad commented back something along the lines of "what are you celebrating for? You've got 115 charges to face"

He's not stupid. He works as a regional manager for one of the largest banks in Australia and is a lifetime Ipswich supporter
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He may not be stupid, however he is a fucking bell end.
 
bridgeno1 said:
Ok I'll explain why I think 20 points is a likely outcome. It's a penalty that is severe enough to be significant (and outweigh the penalties given to Forest and Everton, meaning fans of other clubs can shut up about City not having to take their medicine) whilst simultaneously not actually affecting City that much as with a 20 point deduction they are likely to still qualify for the CL etc.

My hypothesis is based on how businesses operate. Also regarding guilt or otherwise - there are shades of grey always when it comes to legal proceedings and even if you know you are totally innocent there's always the fear that the court/jury etc don't see it that way - maybe the opposition lawyer spins a great story, maybe there's inherent bias on the part of the jury etc.

Which is why I think they won't want to risk it. They'll take a penalty 'in the interests of putting the matter to bed' whilst simultaneously maintaining innocence and stating dissatisfaction with the whole process, both sides move on, and in a couple of years the City fans sit back with popcorn watching Chelsea get bent over a desk by the PL before they go in dry.

All opinion, probably worth fuck all, I've absolutely zero inside info etc.
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You.
Awake, at work, eating your tea, watching TV, walking the dog, going to bed, waking up.

We've ruined you.
 
bobbyowenquiff said:
Harris sees the City FFP saga as a meal ticket. He doesn’t want anyone else taking the bread out of his mouth. He’s a starving freelance in a shrinking market.
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This is essentially it. His whole career relies upon the charges going the PL's way, if it doesn't he's finished. So he doesn't want anyone on his patch stealing 'viewers'.

He went freelance recently, not by choice in my opinion but because nobody would have him. Its not worked out for him either, I wouldn't say he's picked up enough subscribers on Substack to make a living.

As someone has also alluded to, his attitude is horrendous, he speaks to people like dirt, so I'm not surprised nobody would hire him.

Surprisingly though this Magic fella knows even less than Nick. So watching them 2 pull each other part is a bit funny.

Either way neither are worth listening too, @projectriver has summarised both sides of the case perfectly in recent months.
 
bobbyowenquiff said:
Harris sees the City FFP saga as a meal ticket. He doesn’t want anyone else taking the bread out of his mouth. He’s a starving freelance in a shrinking market.
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Very possibly. But he also absolutely sees the hat fella as the chancer that he is without seeing some of the fundamental issues with his framing which many of us were saying.

Still let the fuckers fight.
 
Bloody hell! I follow a few people on You Tube re reselling car boot sort of thing. Just watched one of the latest videos and he comes across a City shirt in a charity shop and says ‘cheats’ and ‘115 charges’! Immediately unsubscribed. Not putting up with that shit on something unrelated to football. Guess what? Arsenal fan!
 
Brightwell Bros. said:
Although more than a bit fucking funny that Nick Harris has outed this joker for knowing fuck all, and the joker has outed Nick for having close correspondence with the PL lawyers and now thinks they won't get anything over the line. Hmmm.

Hi Nick, hi joker.
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How can you read that when it keeps changing to another exchange?
 
blue for life said:
Bloody hell! I follow a few people on You Tube re reselling car boot sort of thing. Just watched one of the latest videos and he comes across a City shirt in a charity shop and says ‘cheats’ and ‘115 charges’! Immediately unsubscribed. Not putting up with that shit on something unrelated to football. Guess what? Arsenal fan!
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Red cartel = Red mardarses.
All of them. Their entitled gobshites that follow them are absolutely crestfallen.
 
blue for life said:
Bloody hell! I follow a few people on You Tube re reselling car boot sort of thing. Just watched one of the latest videos and he comes across a City shirt in a charity shop and says ‘cheats’ and ‘115 charges’! Immediately unsubscribed. Not putting up with that shit on something unrelated to football. Guess what? Arsenal fan!
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We’ve totally broken them
 
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