General Election - 4th July 2024

Who will you be voting for in the General Election?

  • Labour

    Votes: 266 56.8%

  • Conservative

    Votes: 12 2.6%

  • Liberal Democrat

    Votes: 40 8.5%

  • Reform

    Votes: 71 15.2%

  • Green Party

    Votes: 28 6.0%

  • Other

    Votes: 51 10.9%
  • Total voters
    468
kaz7 said:
Sky have been presenting from grimsby ALL day , for 40 mins tonite, sick of the fucking place , lol
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They have been going back there for months. Think it's because it's seen as a key constituency that will show how the national vote could go.
But yes, I'm sick to death of that bleeding cafe lol
 
Churchlawtonblue said:
No not really, I was criticising the Greens for thinking that just because they believe people have spare cash when they earn 50 k or more, doesn't necessarily mean that people do have that spare cash. I used the materialistic analogy as green people arnt the most materialistic in my experience, but 99% of the population are to a degree are they not?

Ie its easy and incorrect for Greens to judge everybody by their holier than thou lifestyle.
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Greens are polling at 8% so that would suggest that nothing like 99% of the population are materialistic. Those that are may not be irredeemable.
 
Churchlawtonblue said:
Same thing for many families with one bread winner. The point is I don't think the Greens realise that £50k doesn't go far these days, unless you don't have a car, mobile, TV, you grow your own food, make your own clothes and don't go holiday.
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I think some people need budgetary lessons from 30p Lee. Or does cutting your coat according to your cloth only apply to the poor?
 
Churchlawtonblue said:
No not really, I was criticising the Greens for thinking that just because they believe people have spare cash when they earn 50 k or more, doesn't necessarily mean that people do have that spare cash. I used the materialistic analogy as green people arnt the most materialistic in my experience, but 99% of the population are to a degree are they not?

Ie its easy and incorrect for Greens to judge everybody by their holier than thou lifestyle.
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Some people on 100k may be struggling but you cannot base tax policy on individuals or some people.

50k is decent wage and should be taxed accordingly. Personally I think we need huge Tax reforms in this country. Its another chance for Labour to make meaningful change. They won't take it though.
 
So you think the Greens should just be another materialistic party? What's wrong with choice?
 
Vic said:
I think some people need budgetary lessons from 30p Lee. Or does cutting your coat according to your cloth only apply to the poor?
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What's your point Vic or are you just trying to be argumentative for the sake of it? I will have to leave it to you if it's the latter?
 
Churchlawtonblue said:
Same thing for many families with one bread winner. The point is I don't think the Greens realise that £50k doesn't go far these days, unless you don't have a car, mobile, TV, you grow your own food, make your own clothes and don't go holiday.
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How much extra are they gonna tax them?
 
hilts said:
Some people on 100k may be struggling but you cannot base tax policy on individuals or some people.

50k is decent wage and should be taxed accordingly. Personally I think we need huge Tax reforms in this country. Its another chance for Labour to make meaningful change. They won't take it though.
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I run a small business and I'm sick of paying my fair share of tax while the very biggest companies pay little or no tax. That's where I would target increased tax revenue. The problem is these companies have so much power and the ear of the politicians.
 
Churchlawtonblue said:
I run a small business and I'm sick of paying my fair share of tax while the very biggest companies pay little or no tax. That's where I would target increased tax revenue. The problem is these companies have so much power and the ear of the politicians.
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You would be amazed that a lot of people can change more than one thing at once, mind boggling I know. We generally get fucking nowhere because everyone stands their shouting what about them. Like I said reform the tax system that will include trying to be fairer to all.
 
Today's daily Tory election fuck up
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Always think its a bit weird the news channels putting the SNP on the main news when it comes to GEs. They shouldn't really be on the national news as they arnt a national party. We don't get the same coverage of the political parties in NI ?
 
hilts said:
Some people on 100k may be struggling but you cannot base tax policy on individuals or some people.

50k is decent wage and should be taxed accordingly. Personally I think we need huge Tax reforms in this country. Its another chance for Labour to make meaningful change. They won't take it though.
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I’m in the high tax bracket. Personally I’d like to see them increase that and introduce further levels at higher income.
 
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