General Election - 4th July 2024

Who will you be voting for in the General Election?

  • Labour

    Votes: 266 56.8%

  • Conservative

    Votes: 12 2.6%

  • Liberal Democrat

    Votes: 40 8.5%

  • Reform

    Votes: 71 15.2%

  • Green Party

    Votes: 28 6.0%

  • Other

    Votes: 51 10.9%
  • Total voters
    468
SkyBlueFlux said:
If there’s one innocuous but I think really important thing I’m hoping Labour do differently, it’s making announcements to the chamber before announcing to the media.

Might seem like a small thing but in my view the Tories governing by PR has been hugely damaging to the integrity of the house. And it has fucked off about 4 different speakers and deputy speakers.
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I agree - go about things the 'right' way. Anything else normalises the way it's been done.

I'd quite like to see all reports released, and quickly finishing/dealing with the interrupted issues.

I do wonder how the committees will run if Labour have an enormous majority - the other party MPs might be very busy!
 
bluenova said:
I get the impression that they're planning on ripping the Tory administration to shreds as part of their plans for the future.

They've been suggesting they need to have a look at "how bad" the finances are, and I suspect they will be aiming to try and have the Tories seen as the reckless ones.

They've also got the Covid "VIP lane" and Covid fraud that was ignored, as a line of attack. The VIP lane is potentially the biggest political scandal of the past twenty years, and Labour have made it clear they intend to look into this closely. Shining a light on that and trying to get back some of the money would keep the Tories in the spotlight for some time.
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And put aimed for deadlines on things like the infected blood scandal. It has to end as quickly as practical. It'll cost a lot of money, but that won't reflect on a Labour govt especially.
 
MillionMilesAway said:
I agree - go about things the 'right' way. Anything else normalises the way it's been done.

I'd quite like to see all reports released, and quickly finishing/dealing with the interrupted issues.

I do wonder how the committees will run if Labour have an enormous majority - the other party MPs might be very busy!
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Good question, hadn’t thought about committees. I’ve been busy wondering where they’re all going to sit!
 
bluenova said:
He's in one of the four "Great Offices of State" at the moment, and should be in available in Parliament to answer questions.

I'm pretty sure that the Tories left won't change the rules to allow it, as they'll be angling for the job themselves, but frankly that's a bigger insult than having the leader of the opposition in the Lords.
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Not sure I agree.

Think he was a ray of sanity. Sometimes you need to pull someone in from outside out of necessity. As long as it’s by exception I think it’s perfectly legitimate as an occasional last resort.

Cameron massively miscalculated and has fucked this country up, but he was always a realist.

I wonder what he really thinks. About Brexit.

He must so regret it destroying his legacy. And it was self-inflicted!
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Not sure I agree.

Think he was a ray of sanity. Sometimes you need to pull someone in from outside out of necessity. As long as it’s by exception I think it’s perfectly legitimate as an occasional last resort.

Cameron massively miscalculated and has fucked this country up, but he was always a realist.

I wonder what he really thinks. About Brexit.
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I suspect we'll find out one day.

Another political biography due once he leaves government.
 
TinFoilHat said:
I suspect we'll find out one day.

Another political biography due once he leaves government.
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He must fucking hate himself.

I don’t know why, but I never disliked him. I understood why others didn’t, but I never got bad vibes from him. Thought he seemed an ok bloke. And respect for landing a wife like that.

Have hated every **** that’s followed him though!
 
Went out tonight with a group of lads and a few were saying they wanted to vote reform because of their manifesto. I'd like to say it surprised me but it didn't, we can put our fingers to our ears and pretend immigration isn't a problem but to some it really is. But at the end of the day I can get all high and mighty and ridicule them but their vote has the exact same impact as mine. So I chose to ignore it and had a good night with them anyways.
 
Scottyboi said:
Went out tonight with a group of lads and a few were saying they wanted to vote reform because of their manifesto. I'd like to say it surprised me but it didn't, we can put our fingers to our ears and pretend immigration isn't a problem but to some it really is. But at the end of the day I can get all high and mighty and ridicule them but their vote has the exact same impact as mine. So I chose to ignore it and had a good night with them anyways.
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They are genuinely held concerns. But we don’t have any choice. Unless we want our ill and elderly to perish.
 
TinFoilHat said:
Tories got their lapdogs out trying to scare voters that labour will tax breathing etc.
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To be fair, the left wing on here do nothing but warn us about what the liar Starmer and Tory Reeves will do so you can’t just blame the Tories for that.
 
blueinsa said:
To be fair, the left wing on here do nothing but warn us about what the liar Starmer and Tory Reeves will do so you can’t just blame the Tories for that.
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Yeah, but the left are annoyed because Labour won't raise taxes (and that the Tories are lying about it). They fear that the Tories are lying!

I'm torn between thinking Starmer could start juggling with the Ming vase and say we'll raise taxes to pay for all the public services you want (or want back) or that it's best to stick to "Tory-lite" (with some renationalisation) in order to wipe out the Tories as the main opposition in Parliament to raising taxes to fund public services.
 
I accept what they say ref Covid and Ukraine but thats all they have - the trot the excuses out but don't offer any creative way of fixing things other than raising taxes, denying they are raising taxes and saying Labour ( who are not the Govt ) will raise taxes - they are not a serious Govt

 
Mad Nads did fuck all in her community for a year whilst writing a book and begging Johnson for a shag - the idea she is "on the doorstep" in this campaign is laughable

 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Not sure I agree.

Think he was a ray of sanity. Sometimes you need to pull someone in from outside out of necessity. As long as it’s by exception I think it’s perfectly legitimate as an occasional last resort.

Cameron massively miscalculated and has fucked this country up, but he was always a realist.

I wonder what he really thinks. About Brexit.

He must so regret it destroying his legacy. And it was self-inflicted!
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I don't doubt that Cameron has a bit more ability than many Tory MPs, but they put one of the most important roles in Government in the Lords, where MPs are less able to challenge what he does.

And why did they do it? Not for some huge altruistic reason - for the sake of the country - they did it because they were so far back in the polls, and we're desperate to save the Tory party.

Bear in mind we're also talking about someone who walked off whistling at the first sign that being PM was difficult, rather than sticking around and trying to actually argue for a less destructive version of Brexit.

And his biggest contribution to public life in the years between wandering off, and being brought back? That just happened to be the Greensill lobbying scandal, where he tried make money off the back of his Government contacts during Covid.
 
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