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Both points in your question are false.

Starmer is not responsible for bringing people in to the party. Anyone is free to join and free to express a view. Only when things cross a line is there a decision to be made and Starmer tries to keep out of that unlike his predecessor.

And Starmer has never said that starving kids is acceptable.

If you can't keep the discussion based on reality there's no point going on.
Based on reality you say. Incredible.
 
Tbf I think Hilts has got food and water mixed up, Starmer did 100% state Israel has the Right to withhold Water from the Palestinian people. Either way like me and others have said it's an abhorrent and horrific thing to say. He shouldn't be anywhere near Number 10 on that quote alone.
Nope he did not 100% state that. A journalist asked him if they had the right to do that. There is far more context here and this is the kind of BS that only feeds BS narrative.

If Starmer is not your man that's fine but don't spread BS.
 
Well, that's subjective of course.

Well, all comedy is subjective. And obviously I'm not a fan of his jingoistic or sexist jokes, particularly in his later years, when he was clearly a man out of his time.

However, in terms of the development of comedy, he was an important figure. He was a great physical comedian, but at his peak, his comedy was modern, and even groundbreaking.
 
Nope he did not 100% state that. A journalist asked him if they had the right to do that. There is far more context here and this is the kind of BS that only feeds BS narrative.

If Starmer is not your man that's fine but don't spread BS.

The way that interview has been completely mythologised and twisted is infuriating to me and I don’t even like Starmer.

Starmer says about 10 times in 30 seconds “Israel has the right to defend itself… Israel has that right… Israel has that right…” clearly he is talking about Israel’s right to defend itself. That point is abundantly clear.

Ferrari interrupts and talks about stopping water and Starmer continues “Israel has that right [stuck in a loop of repeating the same thing he’s already said repeatedly]. Obviously everything should be done within international law.

How has the bit in bold been totally erased from history? How has this turned into Starmer advocating the deaths of children? Is starving children within the bounds of international law? No? Then that is quite obviously not what he’s suggesting. Is stopping water as a form of collective punishment within the bounds of international law? No? Then he clearly he was not suggesting that either. It’s not a matter for ambiguity.

There have been people complaining for years about the Tories taking things out of context and weaponising them against the likes of Corbyn, and now they’re quite happily doing it themselves without a second thought. Suggesting somebody believes war crimes are okay when they have actually quite clearly said the exact opposite. Unless somebody can come here and explain how war crimes can be committed within international law.
 

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