General Election - 4th July 2024

Who will you be voting for in the General Election?

  • Labour

    Votes: 266 56.8%

  • Conservative

    Votes: 12 2.6%

  • Liberal Democrat

    Votes: 40 8.5%

  • Reform

    Votes: 71 15.2%

  • Green Party

    Votes: 28 6.0%

  • Other

    Votes: 51 10.9%
  • Total voters
    468
kaz7 said:
Here is hoping , i am going to be glued to the telly all night
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A sitting PM has never lost their seat before Kaz so you may be disappointed.

Would be delightful sight though. Would he even be constitutionally allowed to announce the end of his tenure in Downing street or would he have to sign a short term with House of Lords FC?

Can see him taking the chopper to London City airport and heading off to California before Starmer takes over.
 
Mr Kobayashi said:
A sitting PM has never lost their seat before Kaz so you may be disappointed.

Would be delightful sight though. Would he even be constitutionally allowed to announce the end of his tenure in Downing street or would he have to sign a short term with House of Lords FC?

Can see him taking the chopper to London City airport and heading off to California before Starmer takes over.
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Oh i didnt know that , here is hoping for first !
 
Mr Kobayashi said:
A sitting PM has never lost their seat before Kaz so you may be disappointed.

Would be delightful sight though. Would he even be constitutionally allowed to announce the end of his tenure in Downing street or would he have to sign a short term with House of Lords FC?

Can see him taking the chopper to London City airport and heading off to California before Starmer takes over.
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Not so sure. From the public interviews they were doing on his patch, most were ready to vote elsewhere
 
Mr Kobayashi said:
A sitting PM has never lost their seat before Kaz so you may be disappointed.

Would be delightful sight though. Would he even be constitutionally allowed to announce the end of his tenure in Downing street or would he have to sign a short term with House of Lords FC?

Can see him taking the chopper to London City airport and heading off to California before Starmer takes over.
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He would be able to resign from Downing Street.

In theory, the King can make anyone PM. But in practice, he would have to resign as he would not have the confidence of the Commons. He is still PM though until he resigns. Indeed, at this very moment, he is PM but not an MP as no one is, strictly speaking.
 
Worsleyweb said:
You don't think high taxes and inflation are caused by Covid?

You think net migration will come down under labour?

Interest rates similarly high in the USA - was that caused by Truss?

Some blinkers in that post sunshine.
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Inflation was actually low during most of the pandemic. It only started to rise significantly once the world opened back up and much of it was as a result of rising energy prices which were also reasonable during the pandemic. It was worse in the UK than many other countries partly due to supply shortages as a result of Brexit.

Net migration is unlikely to come down straight away under Labour but the notion that the Tories are the party of low immigration, low net migration, low taxes, and economic competence has been completely and utterly destroyed over the past 5 years.

And why you can’t accept that mortgage interest rates rocketed as a direct result of Truss and Kwarteng’s utterly reckless budget is fucking beyond me!
 
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M18CTID said:
Inflation was actually low during most of the pandemic. It only started to rise significantly once the world opened back up and much of it was as a result of rising energy prices which were also reasonable during the pandemic. It was worse in the UK than many other countries partly due to supply shortages as a result of Brexit.

Net migration is unlikely to come down straight away under Labour but the notion that the Tories are the party of low immigration, low net migration, low taxes, and economic competence has been completely and utterly destroyed over the past 5 years.

And why you can’t accept that mortgage interest rates rocketed as a direct result of Truss and Kwarteng’s utterly reckless budget is fucking beyond me!
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Inflation in Germany higher than ours so that mutes point one. Point two is waffle and deflection. Point 3 simply not true! Direct result. The Bank of England are using interest rates to control inflation!

You are so wrong I am out.
 
Eebo said:
I respect that the election campaign is part of the democratic process but 6 weeks is way too long.

Has anyone changed their mind about who they are voting for in the last week?
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Yes. I was going to vote Labour until I was shown the light last night that it would be an act of surrender.
 
BrianW said:
He would be able to resign from Downing Street.

In theory, the King can make anyone PM. But in practice, he would have to resign as he would not have the confidence of the Commons. He is still PM though until he resigns. Indeed, at this very moment, he is PM but not an MP as no one is, strictly speaking.
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I did consider this and arrived at the same conclusion. What a fucking abortion our constitution is.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
I did consider this and arrived at the same conclusion. What a fucking abortion our constitution is.
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Most modern, advanced countries have a written, codified constitution.

Ours is largely a matter of convention, but can easily be changed by statute based on a majority of one. The perils associated with this state of affairs should be obvious, but the political class seems quite at ease with it.

So do most voters - until the day something happens they don't agree with. This country is wide open to a takeover by extremists, even dictatorship because most people (incredibly) still believe 'It couldn't happen here.'

Among rights taken away in recent years is 'double jeopardy' - which means you can be tried for an offence for which you have already been found 'not guilty'. The right to protest is also under threat - with quite draconian penalties available. Someone like Putin in charge of the UK would not need to modify very much.
 
BrianW said:
Most modern, advanced countries have a written, codified constitution.

Ours is largely a matter of convention, but can easily be changed by statute based on a majority of one. The perils associated with this state of affairs should be obvious, but the political class seems quite at ease with it.

So do most voters - until the day something happens they don't agree with. This country is wide open to a takeover by extremists, even dictatorship because most people (incredibly) still believe 'It couldn't happen here.'

Among rights taken away in recent years is 'double jeopardy' - which means you can be tried for an offence for which you have already been found 'not guilty'. The right to protest is also under threat - with quite draconian penalties available. Someone like Putin in charge of the UK would not need to modify very much.
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I think the removal of the double jeopardy principle, on balance, was correct, especially given the safeguards that were built in. Justice should always be a search for fairness in a way that is codified. If new evidence comes to the fore that is compelling in relation to a serious offence then surely it’s correct that a jury gets to determine that?

But more widely I agree that we need to be vigilant around rights we might take for granted.
 
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