General Election - 4th July 2024

[M18CTID]

He Co-ordinated a very generous plan. Why the abuse?

I didn't see any abuse in his post but all joking aside, I actually agree that the scheme he came up with back then was generous and I recall his delivery was very good when announcing furlough, etc. Well, compared to your mate Boris that is. Unfortunately for you and all the other diehard Tory voters, that was as good as it got for Sunak and he's been on a downward spiral ever since. His demeanour during this election campaign has been nothing short of pathetic and defeatist. I seem to recall back in 1987 Kinnock was staring down the barrel of a heavy defeat just like Sunak was but he still showed a lot more fight than Sunak could muster. In short, he's a fucking charlatan

 

[Cellarite]

Its replacing Southgate with Stuart Pearce

If Southgate had lied, misled England fans deliberately, behaved disgracefully and all without a care in the world.

 

[bluethrunthru]

Truss after defeat banging on about not stopping immigration and not lowering taxes doing for the Tory vote. She just took part an a GE where that was the central plank of Sunaks offer and they have been destroyed - its that failure to grasp that you are in power to do what the people want NOT what you and your donors want the thick ****.

 

[KS55]

It’s representative of the areas where the votes were captured. You’re voting for someone to represent an area in parliament. It’s technically not just a vote for the party leader to be PM. How do you decide on representation from a popular vote? The Lib Dem’s purposely targeted seats they could actually win rather than reform which just hoped for the best.

There are several different methods of proportional representation such as party lists and STV. Many countries manage to achieve proportional representation. We used it in elections for the euro parliament. FPTP is not the only voting system by a long way.

 

[MCFC Wirral]

I'm no tory but don't see why Osborne would take any blame. The demise of the tories started with Boris and brexit. Downhill from there.

Even though the #GetBrexitDone got the Tories in last time? Corbyn’s refusal to commit to a stance ruined him.

I’ve written this before but I solely blame the disastrous Truss / Kwarteng budget that was very bad news for millions of people.

 

[bluethrunthru]

Wales and Oxfordshire have NO TORY MP's !!!!!

 

[East Level 2]

You may be right about Reform and it would be lazy to say that only racists voted for them. What I would add is that it’s easy to promise all kinds of unrealistic shit when you know you’ve no chance of winning a GE. Labour and the Tories don’t have that luxury as they’re always the main parties fighting it out to run the country so their manifestos have to be at least semi-sensible.

The Lib Dems and Greens could also promise the moon on a stick as a labour majority was always likely meaning no chance of having to deliver in a coalition.

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

He Co-ordinated a very generous plan. Why the abuse?

I suppose i could get abusive with the astronomical amounts of money the man wasted, that gave away in untendered contracts to people not up to the job, that he gave away in ‘covid loans’ to multiple fraudulent claims.
The £1.7M spent on ‘painting the PM’s plane’, £120M on ‘the festival of Brexit’, £911M on ‘consultancy fees’ in 2021, double the previous year, £2.3B in fines to the EU for lax customs checks on Chinese goods, £55M on government lawyers for the Covid enquiry, £40M for MOD ‘personal helicopter rides’, £29B on test and trace, over £1B on unusable PPE and testing contracts, millions more on storing it and now millions more on destroying it. All awarded un-tendered again and many of them with links to now ex-ministers and ex-MP’s. We spent over £160B on covid compared to France’s £30B for about the same outcomes.
And, of course, he didn’t insure the national debt, incurred as a result of the Quantitive Easing which he used to issue his ‘Covid Payouts’ against interest rate rises which cost £11B.
These are just a small number of examples and a full catalogue of wasteful spending is attached.
https://assets.nationbuilder.com/b4...ous_spending_tracker_Breakdown.pdf?1717161531

So, all in all, he’s been absolutely useless as both a chancellor and a PM and that’s being generous.

 

[Mad Eyed Screamer]

Liz Truss blaming the tories poor performance on inheriting a big mess.from.Labour 14 years ago ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

 

[remember arthur mann]

You cannot argue in life with people whose main concern in life is the size of their assets.

 

[Blue Maverick]

Be interesting to see how Labour handle the £17 billion black hole of public pensions they owe, lots of legislation needs sorting very soon in regard the tax issues around that, give me my money please.

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

Well, George has gone. The miserable bastard didn't even show up for his own count

 

[bluethrunthru]

Well, George has gone. The miserable bastard didn't even show up for his own count

Did he ever go to Rochdale after his win? He will of course get a Loss of Office Payment, a Winding Up Payment and a pension so a lucrative stint for the grifter

 

[MCFC Wirral]

I’m still surprised Jacob Rees-Mogg lost his seat. You’d think that was safe given his personality etc.

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

Did he ever go to Rochdale after his win? He will of course get a Loss of Office Payment, a Winding Up Payment and a pension so a lucrative stint for the grifter

Won't be the first package he's received. I bet he's had more payments as a losing MP than anyone!

 

[Scottyboi]

I’m still surprised Jacob Rees-Mogg lost his seat. You’d think that was safe given his personality etc.

Ah yes being a Charles Dickens protagonist is a vote winner.

 

[remember arthur mann]

 

[KS55]

Because he's a ****? And before you say it, no that's not intelligent political discourse but, hey, I really don't care right now. We've rid the country of an infestation of callous, entitled, self-interested chancers who, if only you realised it, couldn't give a flying fuck about you.

And we’ve got a new lot who will prove to be exactly the same.

 

[mosssideblue]

And we’ve got a new lot who will prove to be exactly the same.

Let’s give them more than a few hrs eh?

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

The Libdem vote to seat ratio is about right, which is what you posted about.

I was comparing it to the reform vote and then the labour vote.