Media Discussion - 2023/24

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franksinatra said:
Be interesting to see how he develops and where he is this time next year.

I did not know that much about him to our trip to Selhurst Park and he really stood out that day.
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Yeah, that was when i really took note of him. He then had a cameo for England before the tournament and in 15 minutes on the pitch i bet he did more forward passing than Rice just did in the whole tournament.
 
feedmpenzaandhewillscore said:
I wouldn’t mind, they played with a double pivot which gave an extra option to take the ball. The personnel in front of the defence were static. There wasn’t much pattern to play and where people were running to, everything was static. Thank fuck Pep has a few of the players starting back for preseason so we don’t have to suffer this shite football from here till May.
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What about that stupid Nations League. Starts in September. Fucking ridiculous.
 
elbearos said:
Out of his depth by a long way
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Anyone would be out of their depth when you play next to Rice who is obsessed with playing so deep he may as well be a centre back. Maybe if we actually have a midfielder that plays higher up the pitch and doesn't hide whenever things get tricky, other players might have a decent chance. As it was yesterday, Mainoo was isolated and lost against a very good Spanish midfield.
 
willipp said:
Lee Dixon last night was right at it. Walker made an unbelievable overlap into a really dangerous position and Saka completely ignored him, came inside and lost the ball. Dixons first comment was to blame Walker and big up Saka. Its like listening to kids in the bloody playground its that childish.
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I heard that one too.
Lee Dickhead just can't hide his Arsenal bias can he.
 
The Sports section of the DT today has four or five reports: fifteen of the pages are given over to last night's final, there's a spread on rugby union, Wimbers gets a mention, there's summat on golf, and, of course, there's 25 to 30 column inches on a MANUre inward transfer of some Dutch guy! Now the Euros are over we can get down to reporting on what wonderful business the Rags are doing!
 
willipp said:
Lee Dixon last night was right at it. Walker made an unbelievable overlap into a really dangerous position and Saka completely ignored him, came inside and lost the ball. Dixons first comment was to blame Walker and big up Saka. Its like listening to kids in the bloody playground its that childish.
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I thought for a while that that was what Lee Dixon's punditry mimicked - a bloody big kid in the playground. If he turns up at The Etihad next season he should be informed which bus down Ashton New Road takes him back to PIccadilly.
 
Big mals fedora said:
There was

There was a moment last night when someone had the ball, may have been stones, looking for a pass and Rice was stood behind a Spanish player, when there was acres of space in behind the Spaniard and he just stood there like a dummy
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He is so poor technically. Typical English midfield player who can run around a lot & put in a tackle but isn't capable of anything forward-thinking or constructive.
 
brazilians hurt said:
No established England senior player should be anywhere near the nations league squads. It should be used to try players who can’t get more than the odd 10/20 minutes to see what they can do
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If, as I hope, it’s a new manager in charge then that’s going to be a difficult thing to ask him to do in his first few games.
 
johnevans said:
I was watching BBC and Alan Shearer absolutely tore into Saka for not passing to Walker at that moment. A chance to score was lost the as soon as Saka turned into the Spanish defence, refusing the chance to feed Walker in space out wide.

This was a cameo that, for me at any rate, summed up the whole English experience at Euros24.

We started with a squad littered with several players eager to play on the front foot, capable of a higher speed passing game, of working as a unit to press the opposition, make opportunities to score, to take the game TO the opposition rather than get penned back (and there could've been more of such players had Captain Waistcoat taken the likes of Grealish with him)

But we also had the rest of the squad seemingly incapable of spotting the opportunities to pass or to make a run, incapable of doing what top teams (and yes, I DO mean City) actually do. Just as Saka did last night in that instant, not doing the right thing in getting Walker to the goal line and turning the Spanish defence.

Game after game, this repeatedly resulted in our keeper and back four becoming more and more isolated from midfield and attack, not so much in terms of distance but because midfield and attack became increasingly reluctant to do the running to link and develop play, be creative.

The longer games went on, the deeper we dropped and the more it became a case of waiting for someone, anyone to provide a bit of individual magic to get us going or back into a game.. if we were lucky.

And don't get me started on the whole 'square pegs in round holes' thing.. even last night we still had Foden trying to be the attacking midfielder (at last!) while spending a lot of his time with the extra duty of cutting off the Spanish supply to Rodri (which he did quite well.. but all at the expense of his main job, ie to create..)

It simply wasn't good enough from the start of the tournament.. and the blame for the complete mismanagement of the best squad, together with the best competition draw we've had in decades, lies at the feet of Captain Waistcoat, nobody else.
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After wonderboy Saka wasted such an opportunity, the ESPN argie commenters were waxing lyrical and commended Kyle Walker's reposition in fewer than two seconds, from one end to the other; they also lamented the blind alley that Saka went through. But, were nauseating in their praise for Bellend, must be a Madrid PR thing in their channel.
 
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