It's Quiet 18 - Wanna ring the bell?

[Le Havre Oswald]

What’s Benjani up to nowadays?

 

[mancboy]

What’s Benjani up to nowadays?

still asleep at the airport i think

 

[Coatigan]

Let’s not rewrite history though mate, of course it’s wrong to say he was dog shit, but he didn’t have a single great game playing in the midfield role and it was clearly Pep shoehorning him into the side at times. A manager is allowed to have his favourites, Pep has proved that many times over the years, and that’s his prerogative - he’s done it with Bernie too.

I agree, let's not rewrite history, that is what I am saying too.

Like making shit up, that didn't happen.

He wasn't great the whole season. He certainly wasn't shit either. He played a huge part, and covered for two key top players really well.

 

[bondsman]

It will be interesting to see if mcatee does better with better players around him

This is key for me. Hopefully he does. He looks like he has the tools and attitude to be a good player. Sadly not even playing next to Rodri and Bernardo helped Nunes or KP

 

[mancboy]

This is key for me. Hopefully he does. He looks like he has the tools and attitude to be a good player. Sadly not even playing next to Rodri and Bernardo helped Nunes or KP

Ive given up on KP , i still think there is a player there in nunes

 

[Rammy Blue]

I agree, let's not rewrite history, that is what I am saying too.

Like making shit up, that didn't happen.

He wasn't great the whole season. He certainly wasn't shit either. He played a huge part, and covered for two key top players really well.

Earlier you said “he was excellent most of the season”, I was pointing out he wasn’t. Now you agree.

 

[Coatigan]

Earlier you said “he was excellent most of the season”, I was pointing out he wasn’t. Now you agree.

I don't agree. Most, and whole are two different concepts.

 

[Matt Diablo]

He gave the ball away alot in midfield in the tougher games and his shooting was in whole all over the place. Definately not excellent mainly, wholy or partially as far as I saw

 

[oakiecokie]

Yep, I still think that if a team offered 25m for Mcatee, we'd let him go. I want him to be given a chance though

Doesn`t look like it if the reports are true ref offering a new contract.

 

[mancboy]

I don't agree. Most, and whole are two different concepts.

Do you think when everyone is fit he starts in the first 11?

 

[Gaz (FMwkdsoul)]

He looked like what he was a square peg in a round hole, and he made the best of it. Some games he looked comfortable and a threat, and other game his close game wasn't up to it. Hyperbole to say he was shit or amazing all season. He tried to do what asked as best he could. Occasionally went either way within the same game.

 

[Coatigan]

Do you think when everyone is fit he starts in the first 11?

Not always, but that is not at all what the discussion was about.

People are arguing he was dogshit last year, and that McAtee is better. Both of those are obviously absurd.

Does McAtee start in the first 11 when everyone is fit? Heck does he start ahead of Alvarez if he were still here? No chance. That doesn't mean he has no role.

I'm happy with the move and the fee we got, and happy with whatever way Pep goes forward. People are going way too far with their exaggeration though, and that is all I am pointing out.

 

[mancboy]

Not always, but that is not at all what the discussion was about.

People are arguing he was dogshit last year, and that McAtee is better. Both of those are obviously absurd.

Does McAtee start in the first 11 when everyone is fit? Heck does he start ahead of Alvarez if he were still here? No chance. That doesn't mean he has no role.

I'm happy with the move and the fee we got, and happy with whatever way Pep goes forward. People are going way too far with their exaggeration though, and that is all I am pointing out.

I wouldnt call him dogshit, he is a very good player that benefitted from his surroundings but dont think he is a first teamer.

 

[Coatigan]

I wouldnt call him dogshit, he is a very good player that benefitted from his surroundings but dont think he is a first teamer.

I never argued he was btw.

 

[supercity88]

Not always, but that is not at all what the discussion was about.

People are arguing he was dogshit last year, and that McAtee is better. Both of those are obviously absurd.

Does McAtee start in the first 11 when everyone is fit? Heck does he start ahead of Alvarez if he were still here? No chance. That doesn't mean he has no role.

I'm happy with the move and the fee we got, and happy with whatever way Pep goes forward. People are going way too far with their exaggeration though, and that is all I am pointing out.

Had the fee been £40m then I wouldn't have been happy to see him go. He was an upgrade on Jesus and his trajectory looked really good. However, I get it from his perspective and ultimately he doesn't start if Haaland and De Bruyne are fit. You have to have a plan for that day, but you can't force someone to stay against their wishes to cover it off, and the fee we've secured is staggering and a no-brainer for the club to sell.

It's probably a lot more than we expected to recoup and possibly enables us to dip our toes back in for a target we'd maybe moved on from this summer.

 

[mancboy]

I never argued he was btw.

tbh i havent been following the argument

 

[Stoned Rose]

Yep, I still think that if a team offered 25m for Mcatee, we'd let him go. I want him to be given a chance though

Would be mental that mate.

I watched him about 7/8 times for Sheff Utd last season and he’s fucking outstanding.

His intelligence/vision is elite. Put our guys around him and he’ll be some player.

We need to keep him and integrate him this season. Give him starts in the home games v the weaker sides, the cups and any CL dead rubbers.

 

[blueparrot]

I wouldnt call him dogshit, he is a very good player that benefitted from his surroundings but dont think he is a first teamer.

I agree,but heres a hypothethical question,if our big number 9 wasn't Haaland,do you or anyone else think Pep would have preferred Alvarez to most other traditional 9s ?

 

[Gaz (FMwkdsoul)]

I agree,but heres a hypothethical question,if our big number 9 wasn't Haaland,do you or anyone else think Pep would have preferred Alvarez to most other traditional 9s ?

Yes, think he was great up front tbh, the link with Foden was outstanding in the run they got. They bagged something like 8 goals in 5 games between em.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Not always, but that is not at all what the discussion was about.

People are arguing he was dogshit last year, and that McAtee is better. Both of those are obviously absurd.

Does McAtee start in the first 11 when everyone is fit? Heck does he start ahead of Alvarez if he were still here? No chance. That doesn't mean he has no role.

I'm happy with the move and the fee we got, and happy with whatever way Pep goes forward. People are going way too far with their exaggeration though, and that is all I am pointing out.

I think the crucial thing that Alvarez brought in the 8/10 role was his pressing and work out of possession. He wasn’t as creative as we’d probably like and players like Bobb and McAtee may well suit that role more.

They’ll have to learn to press like demons and constantly close passing lanes if they are to be given extensive game time though.