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Vat on Independent school fees?
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gordondaviesmoustache
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You pay it on hotel accommodation.Is it right that people boarding should pay VAT on their boarding fees? If so, why?
That’s an additional 1.29 children per primary school in Stoke. It’ll be a struggle but I think they’ll cope.
I think some schools might have to take 2 and others just the 1. It's not fair, but 1.29 would cause all sorts of issues.
johnnytapia
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Why would any parent choose to “board” their child and forego all that precious time with them?If we're going to make it an argument about what is "right", I'd probably say that kids shouldn't be farmed out to live in institutions.
gordondaviesmoustache
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If they are called Jacob.Why would any parent choose to “board” their child and forego all that precious time with them?
bluethrunthru
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Another 111 kids looking for places in state schools….
If you had bothered to read the article you'd know its 70 not 111 and they are allowed to enrol into another fee paying school if thats what their parents want
bluethrunthru
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Yep, they mentioned issues with teachers' pensions, so it's hardly an issue that's just come about in the last year.
I'd imagine this will be a good excuse for already failing institutions
metalblue
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You pay it on hotel accommodation.
I was merely establishing that for state boarding schools you don’t pay VAT on boarding fees but you do for private boarding school. There is a certain “discrepancy” there and given one of the 3 guiding principles in the legislation is fairness it’s failing that test quite spectacularly.
I'm With Stupid
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Who uses state boarding schools though? If it's for people like military on deployment, then I get it.I was merely establishing that for state boarding schools you don’t pay VAT on boarding fees but you do for private boarding school. There is a certain “discrepancy” there and given one of the 3 guiding principles in the legislation is fairness it’s failing that test quite spectacularly.
metalblue
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Who uses state boarding schools though? If it's for people like military on deployment, then I get it.
There is one I am familiar with which is an excellent school that parents are desperate to get in to. Private school standards in a state school naturally in huge demand. Has a very small catchment area but once you go to day board or failing that, full board, you can often secure a place - whilst they don’t offer flexible boarding they do say that as many of their boarders live locally they do tend to go home at weekends.
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There is one I am familiar with which is an excellent school that parents are desperate to get in to. Private school standards in a state school naturally in huge demand. Has a very small catchment area but once you go to day board or failing that, full board, you can often secure a place - whilst they don’t offer flexible boarding they do say that as so many of their boarders live locally they do tend to go home at weekends.
Aren't most of these state boarding schools free for day students?
metalblue
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Aren't most of these state boarding schools free for day students?
Yes. Thats not what day boarding is though if that’s what you’re thinking. It’s where the kids stay extended hours (before and after the normal school day).
metalblue
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Aren't most of these state boarding schools free for day students?
Moreover if there is a successful model of state run boarding schools that excel and are able to earn additional funds from boarders to spend on the learning of all then surely we should replicate it wherever it is feasible to do so.
It is almost as if a state school has looked at private schools and gone “we will have some of that” and done it - certainly beats the alternative of a race to the bottom as the levelled playing field is actually to make it worse, not better.
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Yes. Thats not what day boarding is though if that’s what you’re thinking. It’s where the kids stay extended hours (before and after the normal school day).
That wasn't the point. Most of their students don't need to pay and don't.
BridgyDids
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Funny how the “it’s a capitalist society” folks aren’t on the same tune when it comes to this?
gordondaviesmoustache
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My son went to state boarding school and absolutely loved it, apart from the first year, which he hated. It definitely helped him hugely academically. He has very fond memories of that place. And because of where it was I got to see him more than I otherwise would. They were totally relaxed about visits. In the weekday evenings, or at weekends. No need to give any notice to the school. You could just rock up.
My girlfriend hates the notion of sending your kids away, and I get that, but no two children are the same and there will be plenty who absolutely love the experience. My lad is living testament to that.
And should there be VAT on the boarding fees? Absolutely there should.
My girlfriend hates the notion of sending your kids away, and I get that, but no two children are the same and there will be plenty who absolutely love the experience. My lad is living testament to that.
And should there be VAT on the boarding fees? Absolutely there should.
metalblue
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That wasn't the point. Most of their students don't need to pay and don't.
And?
metalblue
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My son went to state boarding school and absolutely loved it. It definitely helped him hugely academically. He has very fond memories of that place. And because of where it was I got to see him more than I otherwise would. They were totally relaxed about visits. In the weekday evenings, or at weekends. No need to give any notice to the school. You could just rock up.
My girlfriend hates the notion of sending your kids away, and I get that, but no two children are the same and there will be plenty who absolutely love the experience. My lad is living testament to that.
And should there be VAT on the boarding fees? Absolutely there should.
But there isn’t going to be VAT charged on those fees. Two tier I believe is the in vogue term. Is it a state model that, you think, should be replicated far more having seen the benefits?
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Just ask your parents to go to your local state school. You won't have to carry privilege for the rest of your life.
gordondaviesmoustache
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I’m saying there should be.But there isn’t going to be VAT charged on those fees. Two tier I believe is the in vogue term. Is it a state model that, you think, should be replicated far more having seen the benefits?
Yes, without a doubt. A hybrid school (which it ultimately is) is a pragmatic way of raising educational standards.