The Conservative Party

Mr Kobayashi said:
Why do you hate him more than Nigel Farage, Richard Tice and Lee Anderson?
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I don't think any of the above are out and out liars. Nor steaming hypocrites, nor evil.
bluethrunthru said:
lets all smoke whatever she is smoking

www.bigissue.com

Liz Truss blames 'trans activists' for her disastrous time as PM. Yes, really

Liz Truss, the UK’s shortest-lived prime minister, has claimed that she faced a “huge establishment backlash” during her short tenure.
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What a ludicrous article, totally misrepresenting what she said.

What she actually said was that "she faced a “huge establishment backlash” (which is true), and that she was sabotaged by a civil service packed with ”trans activists and environmental extremists.” (which is also true).

Is it remotely surprising a nonsense rag with the political credibility of the Beano, should try to dress up this story? No.
 
TinFoilHat said:
Cleverly just called Starmer and Farage two faces of the same coin.

So the Tories have anyone capable of leading that's not a bullshitter?
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No, they hollowed out their party through a combination of vicious in-fighting and pursuing intellectually bankrupt ideas that were against the interests of the majority of the population; meaning that anyone sane either legged it or was chucked overboard. Their extremists made a much better fist of entrism than any Trot ever managed in the 80s!
 
threespires said:
No, they hollowed out their party through a combination of vicious in-fighting and pursuing intellectually bankrupt ideas that were against the interests of the majority of the population; meaning that anyone sane either legged it or was chucked overboard. Their extremists made a much better fist of entrism than any Trot ever managed in the 80s!
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Rees Smug telling delegates they should embrace Farage is the way they may go. Whoever wins the race maybe keeping the seat warm for that ****.
 
Chippy_boy said:
I don't think any of the above are out and out liars. Nor steaming hypocrites, nor evil.

What a ludicrous article, totally misrepresenting what she said.

What she actually said was that "she faced a “huge establishment backlash” (which is true), and that she was sabotaged by a civil service packed with ”trans activists and environmental extremists.” (which is also true).

Is it remotely surprising a nonsense rag with the political credibility of the Beano, should try to dress up this story? No.
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Tell me you're in a cult without actually saying the word ''cult''
 
Chippy_boy said:
I don't think any of the above are out and out liars. Nor steaming hypocrites, nor evil.

What a ludicrous article, totally misrepresenting what she said.

What she actually said was that "she faced a “huge establishment backlash” (which is true), and that she was sabotaged by a civil service packed with ”trans activists and environmental extremists.” (which is also true).

Is it remotely surprising a nonsense rag with the political credibility of the Beano, should try to dress up this story? No.
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Do you have any concept of just how wildly bizarre it is, having crashed the economy through unfunded tax cuts, to think it's true that she was sabotaged by a civil service packed with ”trans activists and environmental extremists.”

It was the markets of the City of London that brought down her through her own economic illiteracy. I will wager that the Venn diagram of bond traders and trans activists has a very, very small crossover!

The obsession with people's genitals is just weird.
 
Chippy_boy said:
I don't think any of the above are out and out liars. Nor steaming hypocrites, nor evil.

What a ludicrous article, totally misrepresenting what she said.

What she actually said was that "she faced a “huge establishment backlash” (which is true), and that she was sabotaged by a civil service packed with ”trans activists and environmental extremists.” (which is also true).

Is it remotely surprising a nonsense rag with the political credibility of the Beano, should try to dress up this story? No.
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''Now people are joining the Civil Service who are essentially activists, they might be trans activists, they might be environmental extremists, but they are now having a voice within the Civil Service in a way I don’t think was true 30 or 40 years ago, so we just have a wholly new problem,” she said.

I know you like news organisations that make shit up but don't start doing it yourself.
 
Looks like we’ve got an inspiring Tory party ahead.

Either BadEnoch who’s running on getting civil servants imprisoned and making government subservient to the markets, or Jenrick with has amateur version of rehashing culture wars.

Joy.
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
Looks like we’ve got an inspiring Tory party ahead.

Either BadEnoch who’s running on getting civil servants imprisoned and making government subservient to the markets, or Jenrick with has amateur version of rehashing culture wars.

Joy.
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It’s slim pickings when Cleverley looks the least mad. Obviously he won’t get the job though.
 
TinFoilHat said:
Half of me wants it to be Badenoch.

Purely because her parliamentary demeanour is shocking. The way she talks down to everyone would be noticeable.
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If Badenoch is made the leader of the opposition the Tories won’t get back in power for another four years.
Right wing political views coupled with, beware anyone who doesn’t have a job, the young, old, sick and disabled. Making money, workers and big business that’s her mantra.
 
Kirkstall Blue said:
If Badenoch is made the leader of the opposition the Tories won’t get back in power for another four years.
Right wing political views coupled with, beware anyone who doesn’t have a job, the young, old, sick and disabled. Making money, workers and big business that’s her mantra.
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On the contrary, I think only she or Generic give the Tories any hope.

Last election remember Labour got 33% of the votes and only 20% of those eligible to vote, voted for them. They polled less votes than Corbyn managed. Let that sink in for a moment. Jeremy Corbyn and his self-admitted Marxist mate McDonnell managed to get more votes than Starmer, even after all the subsequent Tory sleeze and economic pains. That is a shocking lack of endorsement and mandate for Starmer.

And yet, he has a stonking great big majority. Why? Simply because - and only because - the right wing vote was split. The Tories and Reform combined, polled more votes than Labour managed.

The very unfortunate truth for the Tories is that unless something changes to get would be Reform voters to vote Tory, then Labour would win again in 2029.

This is the Tories' challenge. How to get back the Reform votes. And yet we have that idiot Tugendhat saying the Tories must not turn into Reform?!??

The reality is most people in the UK are centre right in their views. It's been that way for a long time, else the Tories would not have been in for 14 years. (Blair only got in by moving towards the right.) And most people in this country are worried about the effects of mass immigration.

The parties on the right need to unite to form a single offering to the public which commits to control immigration and paints a picture of low taxes, lower regulation and lower government interference and strong public services funded by strong growth. If they remain divided they are doomed. Badenoch is arguably the only candidate who can pull this off.
 
Chippy_boy said:
I don't think any of the above are out and out liars. Nor steaming hypocrites, nor evil.

What a ludicrous article, totally misrepresenting what she said.

What she actually said was that "she faced a “huge establishment backlash” (which is true), and that she was sabotaged by a civil service packed with ”trans activists and environmental extremists.” (which is also true).

Is it remotely surprising a nonsense rag with the political credibility of the Beano, should try to dress up this story? No.
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I see you have your location as "downstairs". I've deliberately been nowhere near here for a week to see how things change-or not. I am genuinely now convinced that you are being or have been radicalised upstairs whilst being downstairs.
 
Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese said:
Tbf she was the victim of a backlash, because she damaged the economy as badly as Brexit and Ukraine in about 5 days.
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Obviously has serious mental health issues, delusion being
at the very top of the list.

And the imbeciles who voted her into that position should be sanctioned and removed from their positions as MPs.
 
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