The neck on someone using all those things as a factor that’s worked against Harris whilst supporting one of the worst humans on the planet who has shown he’s incapable of stringing a coherent sentence together, never mind show us his policies.Or maybe they would have voted for a woman who had a plan, or a policy, or who could answer questions, hold a press conference, speak to real people, sell a dream, inspire working Americans........
She reminded me of Starmer, No principles or vision to hang her pitch onI’m starting to think Harris might have been a worse choice than Clinton. As you say she’s a terrible public speaker and she’s robotic - she couldn’t connect with anyone, other than basically Hollywood.
I've seen this repeated a lot today. It's simply not true.
You were fucking wumming most of the time tbfWe had three threads on here that were all just basically outpourings of hate/rage/ fear about trump and anyone questioning Kamala's suitability, popularity or likelihood of winning was pretty much abused. Mostly by the characters that have now largely slunk off after weeks throwing their treasured opinions around like facts.
Laughable really as all Trump does is say he will fix this he will do that they will be the best, there is zero context. Why is he allowed to get away with it but Harris wasn't?
Why didn't all the Democrats that voted for Biden vote for Harris? Are they racist or sexist? Or perhaps they never really existed in 2020.
Thing is you cant go on about the other side constantly if you are already in powerhere is the problem with politics. no one accepts that their side have done wrong so go on the attack. Harris and her supporters did spend a lot of time talking about Trump.
BUT Trump and his supporters spent their time talking about Harris.
from a, relatively, neutral position I felt they were as bad as each other.
It is simply true.
Avoid the question. Good one. So where did all the 2020 Democrat voters go? They just decided to sit home and allow a "fascist" to be elected over a poor noble woman of colour?Don’t need that last sentence, this isn’t Twitter…
You mean those Americans in 2020 that voted for Biden but in 2024 didn't show up for Harris? Those Americans?
If Biden had stuck to his promise. A new cadre of Dems would have appeared to run. He screwed the Democrats of that.
Like I said, agree to disagree. But as for running away from positions, she had voted for the same positions during the previous 4 years. Meanwhile her opponent changed positions on abortion three times in a day. Judged by different standards.She wasn't fine. She was a robotic, uncomfortable candidate. Who spendy her whole campaign running away from positions she held a mere 4 years ago. She was bad all around.
But for the record, I said she was a terrible candidate to run against a headwind. Trump wasn't running against a headwind. I know the Main Stream Media painted a different picture than reality. But hey, we are here now.
She called him a racist, fascist threat to democracy. If you think that wasn't worse or on par. I guess we'll have to beg to differ.
No! She called him a threat to democracy many times. I guess you must have missed it.
Right, so Harris lost because 15 million 2020 Democrats decided to sit on the sidelines and allow a "fascist" to be elected.Sure. They've seen both in charge and they prefer the fascist.
The idea that if Harris were only better at press conferences doesn't pass muster.
Avoid the question. Good one. So where did all the 2020 Democrat voters go? They just decided to sit home and allow a "fascist" to be elected over a poor noble woman of colour?
Rubbish. You simply haven't bothered to check her policies, or don't care if what you're saying is true.Thing is you cant go on about the other side constantly if you are already in power
At some point you have to back your record, offer things you could do different and then a show a different way forward
She just offered more of the same
Last sentence spot on.Economy for sure. Biden choosing to run, causing Democrats not run a real primary didn't help. Immigration was a disaster.
But above all Kamala Harris was simply a terrible candidate to run against a headwind. She is as bad of a public speaker as I've ever seen on the national stage
They both called each other names. That was a wash. She simply couldn't connect with people who weren't already anti-Trump.
i listened to her interviews, but she didnt say anything.Rubbish. You simply haven't bothered to check her policies, or don't care if what you're saying is true.
Why didn't all the Democrats that voted for Biden vote for Harris? Are they racist or sexist? Or perhaps they never really existed in 2020.