Ticket Points Sales Tracking

I disagreed with removal of away points but can understand some of the reasons.
A way forward would be to introduce points for certain match. Lets face it - everyone wants Anfield and OT - but ticket points for Spurs away in the league cup or Southampton/Brighton are justified. I saw no evidence of points hoarders at those matches. So they don't need to be awarded for all matches.
Don't know why this wasn't considered points awarded for less fancied fixtures away and extra points for home cup ties to encourage take up rather than crowds of tourist on mobiles. Well other than while we're winning legacy fans aren't really needed.
 
I disagreed with removal of away points but can understand some of the reasons.
A way forward would be to introduce points for certain match. Lets face it - everyone wants Anfield and OT - but ticket points for Spurs away in the league cup or Southampton/Brighton are justified. I saw no evidence of points hoarders at those matches. So they don't need to be awarded for all matches.
As far as I was aware, and I stand to be corrected on this, for away fixtures where the criteria goes down to match day members, then ticket points are still awarded.
 
The only tuly fair way is to ballot every game.
The current system is ridiculously flawed in favour of those who have monopolised tickets for far too long. Now it seems even they are not happy that tourists and corporates are muscling in on their territory.

The fact that there is an approx 25000 points disparity between season ticket holders who have held their seats for the the same period of time is quite frankly embarrassing and a clear sign that something within the system is wrong.

I do understand the practical difficulties of implementing a draw in advance of every away game however how can it be fair that the same people get tickets week on week?

Or does an historic ability to attend games trump fairness??
 
The only tuly fair way is to ballot every game.
The current system is ridiculously flawed in favour of those who have monopolised tickets for far too long. Now it seems even they are not happy that tourists and corporates are muscling in on their territory.

The fact that there is an approx 25000 points disparity between season ticket holders who have held their seats for the the same period of time is quite frankly embarrassing and a clear sign that something within the system is wrong.

I do understand the practical difficulties of implementing a draw in advance of every away game however how can it be fair that the same people get tickets week on week?

Or does an historic ability to attend games trump fairness??

Everyone who’s just been to the last four games all long distance aways in 11 days, can join the ballot with those who did, for Liverpool.
 
Well I only go to the games if the fixture reaches my ticket points so you would be better off asking your loaded questions to somebody else.

BTW did you ever speak out against the attempted bullying of supporters club members over tickets in here. Dead easy to do. The rabble were a bit of embarrassment to be fair
Nicely swerved. I’ll ask again: should OSC have tickets for those without points? Not loaded, I don’t think they should as it allows people with no/ fewer points to get tickets I / others can’t get. I’m on 22k so if OSC members on fewer points than me hoover up tickets I deem that as unfair. You?
 
Pretty sure in our branch not that we get many OSC tickets members who get them don't have enough points usually younger end. But secretary orders for those who have enough points so we travel together and sit/stand together.
Can you tell me how the secretary does this ?
Are you saying he purchases on each window, when the supporters qualify through the loyalty scheme.
In which case I understand.
 
The only tuly fair way is to ballot every game.
The current system is ridiculously flawed in favour of those who have monopolised tickets for far too long. Now it seems even they are not happy that tourists and corporates are muscling in on their territory.

The fact that there is an approx 25000 points disparity between season ticket holders who have held their seats for the the same period of time is quite frankly embarrassing and a clear sign that something within the system is wrong.

I do understand the practical difficulties of implementing a draw in advance of every away game however how can it be fair that the same people get tickets week on week?

Or does an historic ability to attend games trump fairness??
The loyalty points system was brought in to reward loyal fans who followed the club through dark times.
Why do you want to punish those fans yet fail to demand answers from City about the other 40% of tickets that seem to end up in the hands of all and sundry.
We would all be better directing our ire at the club and asking that at least 30% of those tickets are returned to the loyalty points scheme.
Then perhaps you could put 20% of those tickets into a ballot for people who wouldn't get a ticket through not having eno loyalty points
 
The loyalty points system was brought in to reward loyal fans who followed the club through dark times.
Why do you want to punish those fans yet fail to demand answers from City about the other 40% of tickets that seem to end up in the hands of all and sundry.
We would all be better directing our ire at the club and asking that at least 30% of those tickets are returned to the loyalty points scheme.
Then perhaps you could put 20% of those tickets into a ballot for people who wouldn't get a ticket through not having eno loyalty points
Do you mean 30% of the 40% or 30% of the total allocation. I think you mean total allocation which would mean 90% go to points. Are you saying OSC allocation disappears altogether and those members who obtain tickets from their branches would now have to wait until their points bracket is reached? Presume the remaining 10% would be for players, staff, corporate and sponsors.
 
The loyalty points system was brought in to reward loyal fans who followed the club through dark times.
Why do you want to punish those fans yet fail to demand answers from City about the other 40% of tickets that seem to end up in the hands of all and sundry.
We would all be better directing our ire at the club and asking that at least 30% of those tickets are returned to the loyalty points scheme.
Then perhaps you could put 20% of those tickets into a ballot for people who wouldn't get a ticket through not having eno loyalty points

70% to loyalty points and 30% ballot for everyone else sounds fair to me and is what England travel club do. In that 30% should be everyone who applies for a ticket including sponsors, hospitality etc

Another idea is in the ballot you get a ballot place for every point you’ve got. That way it rewards you points and gives you more chance of a ticket even if you don’t qualify for the top 70%.
 
Do you mean 30% of the 40% or 30% of the total allocation. I think you mean total allocation which would mean 90% go to points. Are you saying OSC allocation disappears altogether and those members who obtain tickets from their branches would now have to wait until their points bracket is reached? Presume the remaining 10% would be for players, staff, corporate and sponsors.
30% of the 40 %,presently given to other groups.
10% for the club to distribute for staff and corporate.
All other tickets go through the loyalty scheme .
Total 90% of tickets go to the loyalty scheme ,split as follows,
For a 3000 ticket allocation
60% loyalty points = 1800 tickets
10% to 18/25 and juniors = 300 tickets
20% through a ballot to people who don't qualify through there points total = 600 tickets.
10% club = 300 tickets.
 
There's no utopia in all this, it's all gone much too far.

However, when we play the rags next month there'll be loads of 18-30 lads in their end and I'm sure there's plenty of 'friends of the club' wanting tickets.

I suspect not doing aways much now our corner there won't have as many spotty faces.
 
The only tuly fair way is to ballot every game.
The current system is ridiculously flawed in favour of those who have monopolised tickets for far too long. Now it seems even they are not happy that tourists and corporates are muscling in on their territory.

The fact that there is an approx 25000 points disparity between season ticket holders who have held their seats for the the same period of time is quite frankly embarrassing and a clear sign that something within the system is wrong.

I do understand the practical difficulties of implementing a draw in advance of every away game however how can it be fair that the same people get tickets week on week?

Or does an historic ability to attend games trump fairness??
Over the past 2 weeks we've had 4 away games, 3 of which went down to matchday members.

I can guarantee you that plenty of the people whinging that they can't get an anfield ticket, won't have bothered with any of these less attractive away games.

But the blokes on 30k points will have all been there, as that's what got them to 30k points in the 1st place! Yet you think that's unfair.

What's unfair is the fact that the club siphon off so many tickets from loyalty points, meaning the criteria is selling out higher and higher each year
 
We all realise im sure, the multi global mcfc ticket office spotters are loving this thread: 1. Divided they stand ..yippee 2. They are happy for a ballot..yippee 3. Pick up in destination..yippee. Great..... 'Let's syphon off more to those johnny come late ones wiv the money and half scarfs and continue to pull the wool over the old diehards who make us no money '
 
The only tuly fair way is to ballot every game.
The current system is ridiculously flawed in favour of those who have monopolised tickets for far too long. Now it seems even they are not happy that tourists and corporates are muscling in on their territory.

The fact that there is an approx 25000 points disparity between season ticket holders who have held their seats for the the same period of time is quite frankly embarrassing and a clear sign that something within the system is wrong.

I do understand the practical difficulties of implementing a draw in advance of every away game however how can it be fair that the same people get tickets week on week?

Or does an historic ability to attend games trump fairness??

Can you tell me how the secretary does this ?
Are you saying he purchases on each window, when the supporters qualify through the loyalty scheme.
In which case I understand.
Got it in one thou when he knows people will qualify he waits until he can buy a group at lower points.
 

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