Are you still confident then Matt? I’ve been back and forth with it for so long.I think it's safe to say those that heard this case was a total sham even before the case started (complete waste of time basically a rehash of the uefa witch hunt) certainly wasn't from the equivalent of a bloke in pub, that clown was going on about . . .
For what it's worth, Eric, I think and have always thought 100% we're gonna dry bum these bastards!Are you still confident then Matt? I’ve been back and forth with it for so long.
I think we’ll be okay but the natural old school City pessimist in me occasionally creeps in! Ultimately I have faith in Khaldoon and co. though.
Just listen to Tolmie mate - he resonates exactly how confident I am too. It was a very clear (indirect) from the horses mouth personally for me. Best itk i could have hoped for sick of this shit. It will never be over . . . the hate. It can only be the truth.Are you still confident then Matt? I’ve been back and forth with it for so long.
I think we’ll be okay but the natural old school City pessimist in me occasionally creeps in! Ultimately I have faith in Khaldoon and co. though.
Any clip with Andy Goldstein in is a bad thingJust watched a clip where Andy Goldstein is saying that he's heard a rumour that we've been found not guilty of all charges
That's a bad thing.
I'd an old school friend (big United fan) who i've got in touch with again in recent years as he lives near me now
His theory was that everyone was jumping off the sinking ship, after Berardi and Txiki left and a few players were linked with moves away in the summer.
A simple "so Pep stays" message on Tuesday evening led to a good hour of arguing on watsapp.
My point was that when we clear our name are they going to accept it, or move the goalposts again as they've done continuously with City since 2008:
Buying the league - yet every club is trying to do the same, and most clubs who won it in the past did so cos they'd bought some pretty good players.
Look at the net spend its ridiculous, now net spend doesn't matter when ours is one of the lowest in the league the last 5 years.
Pep won't be able to do it in England, a fraud and a chequebook manager - ahh but can he back up that title win the great teams win it again the next year
Wins a treble - ahh but 115, he cheated
Better yet; deliver it personally. ;)Send him a recording of a severe curry and Guiness fart then never engage the **** again.
that more likely what arguing about for last 9 weeksHow can the pl charge us for no cooperation, when any dealings with them get leaked. Mad world
How can the pl charge us for no cooperation, when any dealings with them get leaked. Mad world
Sam Lee has only tweeted out the same information that Tolmie posted on here six months ago so is not that well connected.He’s got stick in the past for talking shit, acting hard on a train & not putting out City’s side when obviously being connected.
A re-run of the UEFA case fiasco. It does sound plausible and it would confirm that the only motive the PL had with their witchhunt was to damage City. But if the PL are found to have produced "no evidence" after four years (like UEFA) it is hard to see how they can gloss over it as easily as Ceferin did with his fake narrative.I also think that this time City will not accept the situation as passively as last time.Personally I think its quite obvious what is going to happen, we will be cleared of all the major charges but found guilty on many of the none-cooperation charges. The narrative will be set that the PL tried all they could to prove the charges and only failed as we wouldnt cooperate.
The PL lose face but get some of the charges in their favour, we are tarnished with being found guilty on 30+ charges. Everyone can carry on with the mudslinging and snide comments about us as a club.
I could have said that tbf , all the bollocks about the grass being too long and such were never sticking and were always getting dropped . It still comes down to the three big charges as it has all alongIt also squares with what @Manchester33 heard directly from a contact within the club - that some charges were effectively dead in the water before the hearing started. Whether the IC would’ve still spent time discussing them at the hearing is another matter - and my guess is that they would still have to consider them as some kind of box-ticking exercise - but the club were super confident about the outcome of those, just as they are about the whole thing.
Of course, they might’ve misjudged it badly, and Stefan always says you never know for sure even if you have what looks like a slam dunk of a case, but I don’t think they would put out noises as emphatic as that if they thought it was 50-50.
If we do get cleared of all the main charges, I’m still expecting the IC to give the PL a token win on the non-cooperation charges to save them from total humiliation.
You’re bit slow, I posted this ages ago :-) I said they guessed at what the punters would do but I was just being facetious. I did beat the odds makers some years ago with an early ante post e.w. bet at 100-1, which came in third. Champers all round.You are partly correct but they start off with odds compilers using their knowledge and opinion to construct a book, that has nothing to do with any weight of money.
If we have cited the ‘disgraceful emails’ (per Tolmie) alleging that that the PL was not being impartial, we may even escape the non co-operation rap. Outside bet, I know, but we can dream.Sam Lee has only tweeted out the same information that Tolmie posted on here six months ago so is not that well connected.
A re-run of the UEFA case fiasco. It does sound plausible and it would confirm that the only motive the PL had with their witchhunt was to damage City. But if the PL are found to have produced "no evidence" after four years (like UEFA) it is hard to see how they can gloss over it as easily as Ceferin did with his fake narrative.I also think that this time City will not accept the situation as passively as last time.
The PL still think they ‘won’ the APT case. #Delusionsareus.As much as I agree. I think with the size of this case and implications. All parties have been keeping the noise down especially as they don't want any hiccups about leaking news.
I'm nervous as hell about the outcome. I have spoken to a few friends who have done some work with City. The only thing they have said is "openly City are very confident and have been positive with all staff and its business as usual". But there are only a small number of people internally who know what is really going on.
Let hope their messages are true. I find it interesting - the PL are acting bullish with the APT
Are you volunteering to administer them?Blowjobs all round of that's the case
You do not get away with something if you are innocentHow great if we "get away with it" ...
Oi, I'm not slow! I did some odds compiling when I worked at the William Hill Regional Office in Stockport, it was more local events, like non league football or greyhound races and the bets would be restricted to regular punters and for a maximum liability of around £20 (it was over 40 years ago).You’re bit slow, I posted this ages ago :-) I said they guessed at what the punters would do but I was just being facetious. I did beat the odds makers some years ago with an early ante post e.w. bet at 100-1, which came in third. Champers all round.
He’s already fixed it up; reported a couple of weeks ago that he is representing the independent schools in their efforts to defeat the VAT proposal, iirc.I had seen something saying that all the main players were asked to be available for a 10 week period. Obviously it becomes a nightmare if it were to over run as getting the required people to be available at the right times will conflict with other responsibilities. Lord Pannick is never sat on his arse in the office waiting for the phone to ring for his next gig for example.