10 | Jack Grealish - 2024/25

[sir baconface]

What, you want to be left to whine and moan about a player in peace. Sorry if I think people are chatting shite I'll be here to tell them. Obviously Pep knows better, to think otherwise shows the lack of self awareness I alluded to.

So, “Pep knows best so the rest of you can fcuk off with your shite views”.

And that’s self awareness?

Right.

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

The issue for me is that Grealish so clearly has abundant talent and a great opportunity but he consistently fails to perform at a level many think he's capable of .In some ways he reminds me a bit of McManaman when he was here .

Christ was a fucking comparison !

 

[Luddite_Blue]

The issue for me is that Grealish so clearly has abundant talent and a great opportunity but he consistently fails to perform at a level many think he's capable of .In some ways he reminds me a bit of McManaman when he was here .

There's only the little difference of 3 Premier Leagues, 1 Champions League, 1 FA Cup, 1 UEFA Super Cup and 1 FIFA Club World Cup with McMinimum.

 

[Blue Steel]

Wow, the absolute state of this thread.

A scapegoat has truly been identified who this season didn't play in the CL defeat, didn't play in the PL defeats vs Bournemouth or Brighton, only came on at 3-0 down in the PL defeat vs Spurs and didn't play in the League Cup defeat.

Grealish did play 20 league games (and 36 games in total) in the historic league campaign to seal 4 in a row, 28 league games, 13 CL and 5 FA cup games in the treble campaign and 26 PL games in his 1st season when the PL title was won and yet people are claiming he's only played well for 3 months in total!!!

It's a team game and it looks to me like Jack's ability to retain possession high up the pitch has a significant bearing on whether City wins or loses.

Look at who’s been posting on this thread since Tuesday’s draw.

Tells you all you need to know. Same old sad haters who can’t get their heads around why Pep keeps playing him.

 

[blueparrot]

So, “Pep knows best so the rest of you can fcuk off with your shite views”.

And that’s self awareness?

Right.

I never said you can't post what you like, I never asked you to fuck off from the thread. Yet yourself not liking anyone disagreeing,or putting a counter argument wanted me to leave the thread. So there's that to ponder.Right?

 

[EL APACHE TEVEZ]

Give him a free roll and he will be a £100 million pound player but pigs will fly stay on the left and hold the ball up Jackie boy wasted talent

 

[Eccles Blue]

Crikey, it looks as if if Jack plays on Sunday scored 3 or 4 goals had 2 assists and was voted MOTM by the pundits he’d still be the scapegoat and vilified by some.

Go for it Jack give us a great game sunshine. :-)

 

[Luddite_Blue]

fit or not he has never been good enough for City, he runs sideways rather than forward, takes too much time on the ball, and slows the game down . He was never a 100 million player. Due to our bad signings on the wings and midfield, we are too reliant on 2-3 (Haaland, KDB, Foden)individuals to score goals. Rest of our team lacks natural goal scorers

People are completely fixated on the £100m fee. I think (and evidence seems to support this) that the fee brings its own pressure. Jack is the only one of the top 10 most expensive signings of all time to win the CL at his new club

I'd argue that after Mbappe, Grealish has been the 2nd most successful of the top 10 most expensive signings of all time.

And clearly Jack has 3 more PL titles than Declan Rice, Fernandez and Caicedo.

1 Neymar Barcelona - PSG 2017 €222m
2 Kylian Mbappe Monaco - PSG 2017 €145m (+€35m)
3 Joao Felix Benfica - Atletico Madrid 2019 €126m
4 Enzo Fernandez Benfica - Chelsea 2023 €121m
=5 Philippe Coutinho Liverpool - Barcelona 2018 €120m (+€40m)
=5 Antoine Griezmann Atletico Madrid - Barcelona 2019 €120m
=7 Moises Caicedo Brighton - Chelsea 2023 €117m (+€17.5m)
=7 Declan Rice West Ham - Arsenal 2023 €117m (+€6m)
=7 Jack Grealish Aston Villa - Manchester City 2021 €117m
10 Romelu Lukaku Inter - Chelsea 2021 €115m

 

[RayCTID]

There are question marks that he hasn't really shown enough at City to justify the fee but at the same he has brought extra revenue off the field so you could say he has paid part of his fee back. And besides that he has a geniune rapport with the supporters, especially with the disabled.

 

[Keeper!]

Christ was a fucking comparison !

he's got a point ;)

 

[B\connellblue]

People are completely fixated on the £100m fee. I think (and evidence seems to support this) that the fee brings its own pressure. Jack is the only one of the top 10 most expensive signings of all time to win the CL at his new club

I'd argue that after Mbappe, Grealish has been the 2nd most successful of the top 10 most expensive signings of all time.

And clearly Jack has 3 more PL titles than Declan Rice, Fernandez and Caicedo.

1 Neymar Barcelona - PSG 2017 €222m
2 Kylian Mbappe Monaco - PSG 2017 €145m (+€35m)
3 Joao Felix Benfica - Atletico Madrid 2019 €126m
4 Enzo Fernandez Benfica - Chelsea 2023 €121m
=5 Philippe Coutinho Liverpool - Barcelona 2018 €120m (+€40m)
=5 Antoine Griezmann Atletico Madrid - Barcelona 2019 €120m
=7 Moises Caicedo Brighton - Chelsea 2023 €117m (+€17.5m)
=7 Declan Rice West Ham - Arsenal 2023 €117m (+€6m)
=7 Jack Grealish Aston Villa - Manchester City 2021 €117m
10 Romelu Lukaku Inter - Chelsea 2021 €115m

Irrelevant
Our only concern is how Jack performs here. How other players perform for other clubs is meaningless. Txiki and Pep though he was a £100m player. Unfortunately they were wrong. It happens.

 

[B\connellblue]

Right now if Jack can come in on Sunday, play 75+ minutes and keep the ball, not lose it in daft places and track back like he has done to support Gvardiol or Ake (and given Akes performances historically against Salah I’d prefer the latter) then I will take that.

How about he scores or assists? Now that would be more beneficial to the side. He didn't kill himself helping out Gvardiol Tuesday night either when we were playing a much inferior team than we face Sunday.

 

[Keeper!]

How about he scores or assists? Now that would be more beneficial to the side. He didn't kill himself helping out Gvardiol Tuesday night either when we were playing a much inferior team than we face Sunday.

Scores the winner on Sunday in front of the Kop and I will love him forever.

 

[bennyboy]

Scores the winner on Sunday in front of the Kop and I will love him forever.

Gets his form back to something like the treble season is all we ask.

 

[Blue Maverick]

Give him a free roll and he will be a £100 million pound player but pigs will fly stay on the left and hold the ball up Jackie boy wasted talent

Can’t be any worse than what we already have, he doesn’t lose it often and could break the lines to get a through ball to Haaland, does fuck all on the left for me these days, ye he keeps the ball unfortunately he doesn’t release it to do any damage either.

 

[Luddite_Blue]

Silly thread? It's a discussion about a player who has for the most part been a massive disappointment. "Silly" would infer he has been a success which unless you are being a fanboy he hasn't. It's when the likes of De Bruyne and Rodri are missing that Jack should have stepped up to the plate and chipped in with something a bit more than a few free kicks that are fuck all good to us anyway. Far to comfortable in the role of bit part player. He's not alone mind you but some of the others at least have contributed goals and assists in the past.

In a team sport the only stat that ultimately matters is results.

I saw an article around a year or so ago that had Jack top of a players points per game chart, presumably because Rodri was involved in more drawn games. So you can be as sniffy as you like about Grealish winning free kicks but retaining possession high up the pitch helps City sustain attacks and thus helps the team's attacking and prevents counter attacks which helps the team's defending.

It's bizarre and absurd to claim Grealish "hasn't been a success" and has been a "massive disappointment" as when Grealish is in the team City tend to win more and when he's not in the team City tend to lose more.

Which is why Grealish:

• played the majority of PL games in each of the 3 title winning seasons he's been here
• started 12 of 13 games and came on as a sub in the other group game in City's CL winning campaign becoming the only £100 million pound player to win the CL for his new club
• has appeared only as a sub for 20 minutes at 3-0 down in the 5 defeats this season

 

[Luddite_Blue]

Irrelevant
Our only concern is how Jack performs here. How other players perform for other clubs is meaningless. Txiki and Pep though he was a £100m player. Unfortunately they were wrong. It happens.

What or who is a £100m player given Jack is the only one of them to have won the CL at his new club?

Jack being an integral part of City winning 3 Premier Leagues, 1 Champions League, 1 FA Cup, 1 UEFA Super Cup and 1 FIFA Club World Cup in his 3 seasons here isn't Pep and Txiki being wrong.

 

[Stelea]

People are completely fixated on the £100m fee. I think (and evidence seems to support this) that the fee brings its own pressure. Jack is the only one of the top 10 most expensive signings of all time to win the CL at his new club

I'd argue that after Mbappe, Grealish has been the 2nd most successful of the top 10 most expensive signings of all time.

And clearly Jack has 3 more PL titles than Declan Rice, Fernandez and Caicedo.

1 Neymar Barcelona - PSG 2017 €222m
2 Kylian Mbappe Monaco - PSG 2017 €145m (+€35m)
3 Joao Felix Benfica - Atletico Madrid 2019 €126m
4 Enzo Fernandez Benfica - Chelsea 2023 €121m
=5 Philippe Coutinho Liverpool - Barcelona 2018 €120m (+€40m)
=5 Antoine Griezmann Atletico Madrid - Barcelona 2019 €120m
=7 Moises Caicedo Brighton - Chelsea 2023 €117m (+€17.5m)
=7 Declan Rice West Ham - Arsenal 2023 €117m (+€6m)
=7 Jack Grealish Aston Villa - Manchester City 2021 €117m
10 Romelu Lukaku Inter - Chelsea 2021 €115m

Still can’t believe the Lukaku Fee and how quick it went wrong. Barely gets mentioned

 

[B\connellblue]

What or who is a £100m player given Jack is the only one of them to have won the CL at his new club?

Jack being an integral part of City winning 3 Premier Leagues, 1 Champions League, 1 FA Cup, 1 UEFA Super Cup and 1 FIFA Club World Cup in his 3 seasons here isn't Pep and Txiki being wrong.

If any of those players you mention had signed for City instead of who they did sign for I think it's fairly safe to say they would have won the champions league too.

 

[B\connellblue]

In a team sport the only stat that ultimately matters is results.

I saw an article around a year or so ago that had Jack top of a players points per game chart, presumably because Rodri was involved in more drawn games. So you can be as sniffy as you like about Grealish winning free kicks but retaining possession high up the pitch helps City sustain attacks and thus helps the team's attacking and prevents counter attacks which helps the team's defending.

It's bizarre and absurd to claim Grealish "hasn't been a success" and has been a "massive disappointment" as when Grealish is in the team City tend to win more and when he's not in the team City tend to lose more.

Which is why Grealish:

• played the majority of PL games in each of the 3 title winning seasons he's been here
• started 12 of 13 games and came on as a sub in the other group game in City's CL winning campaign becoming the only £100 million pound player to win the CL for his new club
• has appeared only as a sub for 20 minutes at 3-0 down in the 5 defeats this season

I stand by my statement that he has been a huge disappointment. You disagree and that's fine, at the end of the day it's all about opinions.