B\connellblue
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Our only concern is how Jack performs here. How other players perform for other clubs is meaningless. Txiki and Pep though he was a £100m player. Unfortunately they were wrong. It happens.
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10 | Jack Grealish - 2024/25
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Our only concern is how Jack performs here. How other players perform for other clubs is meaningless. Txiki and Pep though he was a £100m player. Unfortunately they were wrong. It happens.
B\connellblue
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How about he scores or assists? Now that would be more beneficial to the side. He didn't kill himself helping out Gvardiol Tuesday night either when we were playing a much inferior team than we face Sunday.Right now if Jack can come in on Sunday, play 75+ minutes and keep the ball, not lose it in daft places and track back like he has done to support Gvardiol or Ake (and given Akes performances historically against Salah I’d prefer the latter) then I will take that.
Scores the winner on Sunday in front of the Kop and I will love him forever.How about he scores or assists? Now that would be more beneficial to the side. He didn't kill himself helping out Gvardiol Tuesday night either when we were playing a much inferior team than we face Sunday.
Gets his form back to something like the treble season is all we ask.Scores the winner on Sunday in front of the Kop and I will love him forever.
Blue Maverick
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Can’t be any worse than what we already have, he doesn’t lose it often and could break the lines to get a through ball to Haaland, does fuck all on the left for me these days, ye he keeps the ball unfortunately he doesn’t release it to do any damage either.Give him a free roll and he will be a £100 million pound player but pigs will fly stay on the left and hold the ball up Jackie boy wasted talent
Luddite_Blue
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Silly thread? It's a discussion about a player who has for the most part been a massive disappointment. "Silly" would infer he has been a success which unless you are being a fanboy he hasn't. It's when the likes of De Bruyne and Rodri are missing that Jack should have stepped up to the plate and chipped in with something a bit more than a few free kicks that are fuck all good to us anyway. Far to comfortable in the role of bit part player. He's not alone mind you but some of the others at least have contributed goals and assists in the past.
In a team sport the only stat that ultimately matters is results.
I saw an article around a year or so ago that had Jack top of a players points per game chart, presumably because Rodri was involved in more drawn games. So you can be as sniffy as you like about Grealish winning free kicks but retaining possession high up the pitch helps City sustain attacks and thus helps the team's attacking and prevents counter attacks which helps the team's defending.
It's bizarre and absurd to claim Grealish "hasn't been a success" and has been a "massive disappointment" as when Grealish is in the team City tend to win more and when he's not in the team City tend to lose more.
Which is why Grealish:
- played the majority of PL games in each of the 3 title winning seasons he's been here
- started 12 of 13 games and came on as a sub in the other group game in City's CL winning campaign becoming the only £100 million pound player to win the CL for his new club
- has appeared only as a sub for 20 minutes at 3-0 down in the 5 defeats this season
Luddite_Blue
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Our only concern is how Jack performs here. How other players perform for other clubs is meaningless. Txiki and Pep though he was a £100m player. Unfortunately they were wrong. It happens.
What or who is a £100m player given Jack is the only one of them to have won the CL at his new club?
Jack being an integral part of City winning 3 Premier Leagues, 1 Champions League, 1 FA Cup, 1 UEFA Super Cup and 1 FIFA Club World Cup in his 3 seasons here isn't Pep and Txiki being wrong.
Still can’t believe the Lukaku Fee and how quick it went wrong. Barely gets mentionedPeople are completely fixated on the £100m fee. I think (and evidence seems to support this) that the fee brings its own pressure. Jack is the only one of the top 10 most expensive signings of all time to win the CL at his new club
I'd argue that after Mbappe, Grealish has been the 2nd most successful of the top 10 most expensive signings of all time.
And clearly Jack has 3 more PL titles than Declan Rice, Fernandez and Caicedo.
1 Neymar Barcelona - PSG 2017 €222m
2 Kylian Mbappe Monaco - PSG 2017 €145m (+€35m)
3 Joao Felix Benfica - Atletico Madrid 2019 €126m
4 Enzo Fernandez Benfica - Chelsea 2023 €121m
=5 Philippe Coutinho Liverpool - Barcelona 2018 €120m (+€40m)
=5 Antoine Griezmann Atletico Madrid - Barcelona 2019 €120m
=7 Moises Caicedo Brighton - Chelsea 2023 €117m (+€17.5m)
=7 Declan Rice West Ham - Arsenal 2023 €117m (+€6m)
=7 Jack Grealish Aston Villa - Manchester City 2021 €117m
10 Romelu Lukaku Inter - Chelsea 2021 €115m
B\connellblue
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If any of those players you mention had signed for City instead of who they did sign for I think it's fairly safe to say they would have won the champions league too.What or who is a £100m player given Jack is the only one of them to have won the CL at his new club?
Jack being an integral part of City winning 3 Premier Leagues, 1 Champions League, 1 FA Cup, 1 UEFA Super Cup and 1 FIFA Club World Cup in his 3 seasons here isn't Pep and Txiki being wrong.
B\connellblue
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I stand by my statement that he has been a huge disappointment. You disagree and that's fine, at the end of the day it's all about opinions.In a team sport the only stat that ultimately matters is results.
I saw an article around a year or so ago that had Jack top of a players points per game chart, presumably because Rodri was involved in more drawn games. So you can be as sniffy as you like about Grealish winning free kicks but retaining possession high up the pitch helps City sustain attacks and thus helps the team's attacking and prevents counter attacks which helps the team's defending.
It's bizarre and absurd to claim Grealish "hasn't been a success" and has been a "massive disappointment" as when Grealish is in the team City tend to win more and when he's not in the team City tend to lose more.
Which is why Grealish:
- played the majority of PL games in each of the 3 title winning seasons he's been here
- started 12 of 13 games and came on as a sub in the other group game in City's CL winning campaign becoming the only £100 million pound player to win the CL for his new club
- has appeared only as a sub for 20 minutes at 3-0 down in the 5 defeats this season