The Title Race - 2024/25

How many points to win the league?


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Today was not a good result for Arsenal to be honest. I agree that it isn't over though for any of the contenders. I was at the game today and we didn't create a chance of note. That is why I am not bullish.
Ok I'll leave you with 1 more stat. There's been 1 football manager in PL history who scored more points in their 1st 12 games than Arne Slot. That manager?

Ole Gunnar Solskjaer.

Remember United 'were back' and would challenge City right? Then they lost 2-0 at Arsenal and the wheels came off. I think Liverpool are riding a wave currently and when they get a couple of results go against them things may get tricky. Or at least I hope so!
 
Ok I'll leave you with 1 more stat. There's been 1 football manager in PL history who scored more points in their 1st 12 games than Arne Slot. That manager?

Ole Gunnar Solskjaer.

Remember United 'were back' and would challenge City right? Then they lost 2-0 at Arsenal and the wheels came off. I think Liverpool are riding a wave currently and when they get a couple of results go against them things may get tricky. Or at least I hope so!
Fair enough.
 
I'm fucked off. I'm down. But I'm a fucking Manchester City fan. I can't help but think with a win or two, and some big decision making from Pep (keep Ortega in the team, drop walker FFS, drop Erl and play false nine, why fucking not?... couple of solid Jan additions) we can somehow sneak back into contention in the new year.

This lot didn't suddenly forget how to play football, and I'm damn sure Pep didn't suddenly forget how to manage. We'll be back and although we might have dug ourselves too big of a hole this season, we'll be there or thereabouts in May.
 
we will win it with a point spare
I love you're optimism but no chance this team can put a double figure winning run together. Which is probably needed to even stand a chance.

Maybe if we can do some good business in January, we'll get top 4 and can build on that in the summer.

No reason we can't win it next season with the right recruitment, because the arse and dippers aren't great teams.
 
Guys a few weeks ago we (Arsenal) were 5 points behind City. Since then we've gained 7 points on you because you've had a blip.

There's no reason Dippers also won't have a blip - this isn't a vintage Liverpool team that's formidable. They'll go on a poor run at some stage.

10th May 2025. Liverpool v Arsenal. From a City perspective if you can go on a run (and you have a decent fixture list from Feb onwards) that game may be the one that lets City into the hen house.

City weren't brilliant today but also you lost to 2 stupid defensive lapses that teams out of form tend to give away. We were absolute dogshit a few weeks back and giving away those kinds of goals, now we look back to ourselves. I'm not sure why City wouldn't do the same and there were moments in the 2nd half today where I thought City showed glimpses of, well, City. 2 teams putting pressure on the Dippers and they'll crack. They always do.

'We don't let this slip'......
I don’t know why you think this is in any way similar to past seasons. We are not finishing in the top 4 this season without a couple of quality signings in January.
 
Guys a few weeks ago we (Arsenal) were 5 points behind City. Since then we've gained 7 points on you because you've had a blip.

There's no reason Dippers also won't have a blip - this isn't a vintage Liverpool team that's formidable. They'll go on a poor run at some stage.

10th May 2025. Liverpool v Arsenal. From a City perspective if you can go on a run (and you have a decent fixture list from Feb onwards) that game may be the one that lets City into the hen house.

City weren't brilliant today but also you lost to 2 stupid defensive lapses that teams out of form tend to give away. We were absolute dogshit a few weeks back and giving away those kinds of goals, now we look back to ourselves. I'm not sure why City wouldn't do the same and there were moments in the 2nd half today where I thought City showed glimpses of, well, City. 2 teams putting pressure on the Dippers and they'll crack. They always do.

'We don't let this slip'......

No way we’re anywhere near the title this season.

It’s your turn to save humanity and stop the candle shaggers now.
 
I'm fucked off. I'm down. But I'm a fucking Manchester City fan. I can't help but think with a win or two, and some big decision making from Pep (keep Ortega in the team, drop walker FFS, drop Erl and play false nine, why fucking not?... couple of solid Jan additions) we can somehow sneak back into contention in the new year.

This lot didn't suddenly forget how to play football, and I'm damn sure Pep didn't suddenly forget how to manage. We'll be back and although we might have dug ourselves too big of a hole this season, we'll be there or thereabouts in May.
Hear, hear. The only thing that matters now is to halt this run with a win. Then start clawing our way back up over the next few weeks and things could look a bit different.
 
Guys a few weeks ago we (Arsenal) were 5 points behind City. Since then we've gained 7 points on you because you've had a blip.

There's no reason Dippers also won't have a blip - this isn't a vintage Liverpool team that's formidable. They'll go on a poor run at some stage.

10th May 2025. Liverpool v Arsenal. From a City perspective if you can go on a run (and you have a decent fixture list from Feb onwards) that game may be the one that lets City into the hen house.

City weren't brilliant today but also you lost to 2 stupid defensive lapses that teams out of form tend to give away. We were absolute dogshit a few weeks back and giving away those kinds of goals, now we look back to ourselves. I'm not sure why City wouldn't do the same and there were moments in the 2nd half today where I thought City showed glimpses of, well, City. 2 teams putting pressure on the Dippers and they'll crack. They always do.

'We don't let this slip'......

When we've had runs of poor results in the past, or slow starts to the season, it was still most often the case that our underlying numbers and performances were good, we just weren't quite getting the results. Naturally things then click into place which is why we go on those storming runs.

That is unequivocally not the case this season. Underlying stats are poor, performances are poor, results are poor. There's nothing to click into place. This season is between you and Liverpool, with Chelsea perhaps being an outside shout.

And I say that without a hint of anger about what's happening this season. A drop off was always coming and I'm still basking in the glow of witnessing the finest side to ever play in this league.
 
Guys a few weeks ago we (Arsenal) were 5 points behind City. Since then we've gained 7 points on you because you've had a blip.

There's no reason Dippers also won't have a blip - this isn't a vintage Liverpool team that's formidable. They'll go on a poor run at some stage.

10th May 2025. Liverpool v Arsenal. From a City perspective if you can go on a run (and you have a decent fixture list from Feb onwards) that game may be the one that lets City into the hen house.

City weren't brilliant today but also you lost to 2 stupid defensive lapses that teams out of form tend to give away. We were absolute dogshit a few weeks back and giving away those kinds of goals, now we look back to ourselves. I'm not sure why City wouldn't do the same and there were moments in the 2nd half today where I thought City showed glimpses of, well, City. 2 teams putting pressure on the Dippers and they'll crack. They always do.

'We don't let this slip'......
Since the Covid seasons the winning points total has been between 89 and 93. Liverpool look like they're heading for the top end of that, if not exceeding it (their current points-per-game would see them end up with 99 points.)

But let's say for the sake of argument that Liverpool actually end up with 89 points. That would mean them getting another 55 points from their next 25 games, meaning something like win 17, draw 4, lose 4. That would be a massive drop in form for them at the moment, but let's imagine it actually happened.

In that case, City would need 90 points, meaning another 67 from what we currently have. That's 22 wins, 1 draw and 2 losses - which is a better run in than our last 25 premier league games in 2018-19 (22 wins, 3 losses).

In other words, for City to win the league at this point would require both a huge drop in Liverpool's form and a truly massive improvement in ours. I don't see either happening, but both at the same time is even less likely. It's done.
 
Since the Covid seasons the winning points total has been between 89 and 93. Liverpool look like they're heading for the top end of that, if not exceeding it (their current points-per-game would see them end up with 99 points.)

But let's say for the sake of argument that Liverpool actually end up with 89 points. That would mean them getting another 55 points from their next 25 games, meaning something like win 17, draw 4, lose 4. That would be a massive drop in form for them at the moment, but let's imagine it actually happened.

In that case, City would need 90 points, meaning another 67 from what we currently have. That's 22 wins, 1 draw and 2 losses - which is a better run in than our last 25 premier league games in 2018-19 (22 wins, 3 losses).

In other words, for City to win the league at this point would require both a huge drop in Liverpool's form and a truly massive improvement in ours. I don't see either happening, but both at the same time is even less likely. It's done.
I really hope not. Russia invades Ukraine. Trump wins. Dippers win the league.

The meteorite strike can't come quick enough.
 
Since the Covid seasons the winning points total has been between 89 and 93. Liverpool look like they're heading for the top end of that, if not exceeding it (their current points-per-game would see them end up with 99 points.)

But let's say for the sake of argument that Liverpool actually end up with 89 points. That would mean them getting another 55 points from their next 25 games, meaning something like win 17, draw 4, lose 4. That would be a massive drop in form for them at the moment, but let's imagine it actually happened.

In that case, City would need 90 points, meaning another 67 from what we currently have. That's 22 wins, 1 draw and 2 losses - which is a better run in than our last 25 premier league games in 2018-19 (22 wins, 3 losses).

In other words, for City to win the league at this point would require both a huge drop in Liverpool's form and a truly massive improvement in ours. I don't see either happening, but both at the same time is even less likely. It's done.

It's likely done regarding City. But there are too many games to predict point totals. Remember Liverpool imploded last season, and their fixture schedule this season is far worse, for they play in the CL...

Arsenal are in it. Much more than many realise. Ciry aren't only because we are missing one of the most influential players the league has seen (without realising it). If Rodri were available, it would have been possible to win the title from this position.
 
It's likely done regarding City. But there are too many games to predict point totals. Remember Liverpool imploded last season, and their fixture schedule this season is far worse, for they play in the CL...

Arsenal are in it. Much more than many realise. Ciry aren't only because we are missing one of the most influential players the league has seen (without realising it). If Rodri were available, it would have been possible to win the title from this position.
I'm not really predicting a points total so much as giving an estimate of the top end of what's possible for us and the bottom end of what's likely for them. As I said, for them to flop that much while we also had an unprecedented run is just not happening. And Arsenal are not much more in it than us, in my opinion.
 
I'm not really predicting a points total so much as giving an estimate of the top end of what's possible for us and the bottom end of what's likely for them. As I said, for them to flop that much while we also had an unprecedented run is just not happening. And Arsenal are not much more in it than us, in my opinion.

Arsenal don't have aging legends and injuries to key players. They can win, say, 87-88 pts.

Liverpool were on course to 95 pts, or even more, as late as February this year, and finished on... 82 pts.

Not saying it will happen again, but injuries to key players may derail their season, too.
 
I get that but you play them at the Etihad and by then should be in form and can win that. We'll inevitably stink out Anfield and gain a brutal draw. So that's 5 points that can be clawed back and your run in is really nice. It's usually in my interest that City go on a bad run but not this season, there's a bigger picture and when Liverpool get involved in a 3 way battle (maybe 4 way with Chelsea as Dippers still have to go there) then they are a couple of bad results away from losing their mojo, just like last season when they supposedly had the title in their hands with an 'easy' run in but shit their pants.
I usually bite my tongue reading your ass kissing posts but I am only human. Stop acting like you are all pally with City all of a sudden. You are irrelevant. You've won literally one shit cup in 5 years and you talk about Liverpool blowing up? At least we went toe to toe for a while and won some big boy trophies.

City Fwens!!

You make me wanna vomit.
 
I love you're optimism but no chance this team can put a double figure winning run together. Which is probably needed to even stand a chance.

Maybe if we can do some good business in January, we'll get top 4 and can build on that in the summer.

No reason we can't win it next season with the right recruitment, because the arse and dippers aren't great teams.

Liverpool will have a wobble. Klopp is ten times the manager of Slot and he couldnt get this lot doing anything. Slot is a good manager but nothing compared to Klopp.

Lets see (and hope)
 
Since the Covid seasons the winning points total has been between 89 and 93. Liverpool look like they're heading for the top end of that, if not exceeding it (their current points-per-game would see them end up with 99 points.)

But let's say for the sake of argument that Liverpool actually end up with 89 points. That would mean them getting another 55 points from their next 25 games, meaning something like win 17, draw 4, lose 4. That would be a massive drop in form for them at the moment, but let's imagine it actually happened.

In that case, City would need 90 points, meaning another 67 from what we currently have. That's 22 wins, 1 draw and 2 losses - which is a better run in than our last 25 premier league games in 2018-19 (22 wins, 3 losses).

In other words, for City to win the league at this point would require both a huge drop in Liverpool's form and a truly massive improvement in ours. I don't see either happening, but both at the same time is even less likely. It's done.

Great post, I agree Liverpool dropping enough points is unlikely and I can't see this current City squad being capable of taking advantage even if they did. This season I'd be happy with top 4 and begin transitioning some of the older players out of the team.
 

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