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That's farcical, Biden giving a full and unconditional pardon to his son. Now, I get it; his judgement will be clouded by the relationship between Biden and his son. Blood is thicker than water etc etc. But where were his advisors when he was coming to this decision? Stevie Wonder could see that it's a disastrous decision from a PR standpoint. The MAGA mob will be stroking themselves silly over this.
 
I thought we had some shit politicians but, fcuk me, the Yanks are outdoing themselves with corruption, despotism and clownism.

Biden: useless, senile and nepotistic. Abusing his power.
Trump: despotic psycho. Egomaniac. Abuses his power.

Add interference in international affairs and no wonder most of the world wants to blow their fkn bollox off.
 
sir baconface said:
I thought we had some shit politicians but, fcuk me, the Yanks are outdoing themselves with corruption, despotism and clownism.

Biden: useless, senile and nepotistic. Abusing his power.
Trump: despotic psycho. Egomaniac. Abuses his power.

Add interference in international affairs and no wonder most of the world wants to blow their fkn bollox off.
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The Yanks are fucking nuggets.
 
For those who don't live in America, or for those who most ONLY consume left wing media... Let me explain this otherwise confusing action.


Joe Biden is not pardoning his son Hunter because he loves him. He is pardoning his son Hunter in other to protect himself....

The real crime here is peddling influence when Sleepy Joe was V.P. for


By giving blanket immunity from prosecution, Joe is protecting not just Hunter, but also Joe's brother, Joe himself and their crime family from any future investigations related to their influence peddling between 2014 - 2016
 
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Username Required said:
It's the "done thing now"? Dude, it wasn't the done thing when Bill Clinton pardoned cronies and domestic terrorists???

People like YOU voted for this shit in the 1990s when you backed Arkansas corruption in the White House, then you wanted to run Hilary for POTUS in 2016. OWN IT.
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So basically America has been fncked for a long time, is that what you’re saying?
I think you’re dead right.
From afar, it has looked that way for a long time and from afar it has looked like it is getting progressively more blatant election on election.
What is seemingly even more scary from afar is that the voting public know this but accept it as the norm. The dis-USA is very diverse and it just seems acceptable that the only way to govern or to get power is to disregard the law. Pay it off perhaps. Money is God. It’s on the constitution or if it isn’t thst can soon be rectified.
 
jimharri said:
That's farcical, Biden giving a full and unconditional pardon to his son. Now, I get it; his judgement will be clouded by the relationship between Biden and his son. Blood is thicker than water etc etc. But where were his advisors when he was coming to this decision? Stevie Wonder could see that it's a disastrous decision from a PR standpoint. The MAGA mob will be stroking themselves silly over this.
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This has become the new way leftists avoid talking about an issue.

By pretending the real story is the other side 'pouncing" on the story.

Like Clockwork:

"Republicans pounce on Biden pardoning his son, Hunter."
-Politico
 
Dax777 said:
For those who don't live in America, or for those who most ONLY consume left wing media... Let me explain this otherwise confusing action.


Joe Biden is not pardoning his son Hunter because he loves him. He is pardoning his son Hunter in other to protect himself....

The real crime here is peddling influence when Sleepy Joe was V.P. for


By giving blanket immunity from prosecution, Joe is protecting not just Hunter, but also Joe's brother, Joe himself and their crime family from any future investigations.
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Yeah. And it’s wrong.
Why does your system allow it happen?
Couldn’t Trump have the law changed so this isn’t possible anymore?

Dax you know it’s wrong and that suits them all. Your system allows it for a reason.
 
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Dax777 said:
For those who don't live in America, or for those who most ONLY consume left wing media... Let me explain this otherwise confusing action.


Joe Biden is not pardoning his son Hunter because he loves him. He is pardoning his son Hunter in other to protect himself....

The real crime here is peddling influence when Sleepy Joe was V.P. for


By giving blanket immunity from prosecution, Joe is protecting not just Hunter, but also Joe's brother, Joe himself and their crime family from any future investigations.
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Biden is a **** but let's not forget the criminals Trump has pardoned. What he's done with Kushners Dad is fuckin scandalous.
 
The Hunter indictment was political in one sense, but not in the way Joe is claiming. Obviously, Merrick Garland was not politically targeting Biden's son. That is simply not believable. Rather, it was political in the sense that they needed to create at least the charade of a Hunter indictment to deflect from criticism that the Trump indictments were politically motivated. After all, if the Biden DOJ would indict Joe's own son, then it must be true that they really believed that "nobody is above the law", including Donald Trump and the January 6th rioters.

The phony nature of what they were doing was tipped off at the plea deal where they were trying to bury, in vague language, that they were giving Hunter blanket immunity, not just for the crimes that he was charged with, but basically so that he could never be prosecuted for ANYTHING he had ever done. When the judge, apparently the only honest person in the room, asked for clarification, the prosecutors lied and claimed that wasn't what they were doing, which came as a major surprise to Hunter's lawyers who stated that was EXACTLY what the deal was.

Once that phony plea deal fell through, Hunter pled guilty with the full knowledge that the old man was never going to let him see the inside of a cell.
 
Dax777 said:
This has become the new way leftists avoid talking about an issue.

By pretending the real story is the other side 'pouncing" on the story.

Like Clockwork:

"Republicans pounce on Biden pardoning his son, Hunter."
-Politico
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Is that what you did when you were a leftist working on Obama's campaign in 2008?

Or do you define "leftist" as "anyone who doesn't really want to be around me"?
 
mancity2012_eamo said:
Yeah. And it’s wrong.
Why does your system allow it happen?
Couldn’t Trump have the law changed do this isn’t possible anymore?

Dax you k ow it’s wrong and that suits them all. Your system allows it for a reason.
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The Pardon power is granted by the Constitution. So it's not just some congressional law that a President can change.

I'm sure the founders never envisioned it's be used to hide family crime like this. Some founders argued against it being included. But I suppose some thought it was needed at the time. Perhaps it's value has been outlived.


This is the broadest use of the Pardon ever!

It's practically an admission of criminality. The irony here is that Trump was impeached 5 years ago for suggesting these crimes ought to be investigated. Lol
 
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Is that what you did when you were a leftist working on Obama's campaign in 2008?

Or do you define "leftist" as "anyone who doesn't really want to be around me"?
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. The Villain arc of this story is to die for.

Just let me know where to send my 10 dollars for an early copy and the release date.

I can't wait to read it.
 
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Username Required said:
The Hunter indictment was political in one sense, but not in the way Joe is claiming. Obviously, Merrick Garland was not politically targeting Biden's son. That is simply not believable. Rather, it was political in the sense that they needed to create at least the charade of a Hunter indictment to deflect from criticism that the Trump indictments were politically motivated. After all, if the Biden DOJ would indict Joe's own son, then it must be true that they really believed that "nobody is above the law", including Donald Trump and the January 6th rioters.

The phony nature of what they were doing was tipped off at the plea deal where they were trying to bury, in vague language, that they were giving Hunter blanket immunity, not just for the crimes that he was charged with, but basically so that he could never be prosecuted for ANYTHING he had ever done. When the judge, apparently the only honest person in the room, asked for clarification, the prosecutors lied and claimed that wasn't what they were doing, which came as a major surprise to Hunter's lawyers who stated that was EXACTLY what the deal was.

Once that phony plea deal fell through, Hunter pled guilty with the full knowledge that the old man was never going to let him see the inside of a cell.
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@ChicagoBlue Just like I told ya!!!
 
Gaylord du Bois said:
He's got the green light to pardon the capital hill mob, now. What a time to be alive.
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Donald Trump's "green light" can be found in The Supreme Law and historical precedence, it has nothing to do with Joe Biden.

The origins of the pardon power in the United States Constitution can be found in English history, known previously as the “prerogative of mercy.” It first appeared during the reign of King Ine of Wessex in the seventh century.

Although abuses of the pardon power increased over time, leading to limitations on it, the pardon power persisted through the American colonial period. Alexander Hamilton introduced the concept of a pardon power at the Constitutional Convention.
The framers of the Constitution deliberately separated the judicial function of government from the pardon power, therefore obviating concern from English jurist William Blackstone that the power of judging and pardoning should not be delegated to the same person or entity.

www.whitehousehistory.org

The History of the Pardon Power

Article II, Section 2 of the United States Constitution states that the President has the authority to “grant Reprieves...
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George Washington pardoned two men who were sentenced to be hanged for their part in the Whiskey Rebellion - a genuine insurrection.

Thomas Jefferson granted amnesty to anyone convicted of a crime under the Alien and Sedition Act.

Abraham Lincoln used his pardon power to promote desertions from the Confederacy.

Andrew Johnson pardoned thousands of Confederate soldiers in an attempt to effect national reconciliation.

Jimmy Carter pardoned 200,000 people that dodged the Vietnam draft.

The broad concept of governmental authority to provide relief from criminal punishment has deep historical roots.3 The power vested in the President by the Constitution traces its origins to authority held by the English Crown,4 leading the Supreme Court to look to legal principles underlying the latter in interpreting the scope of the former.5 A prerogative of mercy held by the King appeared during the reign of King Ine of Wessex (688–725 A.D.)6 and by 1535 had been declared by Parliament, during the reign of King Henry VIII (1509–1547 A.D.), as a right exclusive to the Crown.7

 
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