PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

Some on here can’t deal with anything that might be bad news so try to discredit the posts.

Correct. Whether it transpires to be accurate or not we'll wait and see, but the amount of stuff I've read about apparent great news because of people's body language or Masters wording comments in certain ways ("natural conclusion"), Berrarda wouldn't move if we were fucked, we're building a new stand so it all must be tickety boo etc etc.......this is just as worthy of posting and discussing if not more.
 
I heard through a friend of a friend’s cousin, who lives in England. Doesn’t support City but knows someone who does apparently who knows someone who works somewhere in the Etihad who overheard two guys in suits saying, we’re fucked!

Take of that what you will.

Keep us posted of any updates.
 
What, like the post that the hearing had finished in early November? Not that I'm digging out that poster but it seems positive info gets more leeway than negative info
Yup, I suppose that’s natural.
 
What, like the post that the hearing had finished in early November? Not that I'm digging out that poster but it seems positive info gets more leeway than negative info

It's what people on here want to hear.

People don't want to hear we'll be found guilty of many charges, even though it may be a liklihood.
 
This story about 50 charges being dropped has been doing the rounds for ages but I'm very dubious.

That number sounds very much like it's the charges under the first heading (sponsorship, related parties, accurate financial statements). And these are the issues substantially dismissed by CAS, so they've always been weak unless the PL found some sort of smoking gun that UEFA didn't. I don't believe for one moment that is likely though.

I've heard (I believe reliably) that we presented our evidence on that part of the charges and it was pretty well the same evidence we presented to CAS, with pretty well the same witnesses. If that is the case, that doesn't suggest the PL agreed to drop those particular charges before they were heard.

It's possible, I suppose, that the tribunal has questioned whether the PL lawyers have that smoking gun. If they don't have that then, without it, the tribunal might be very reluctant to override the CAS decision and may have made that clear. We just don't know.

And the PL may well have asked for a specific deduction of points in its original submission but there's simply no way the tribunal will have applied that before closing arguments have been heard. And they will make their own decision on that.

I'm not saying people don't hear things but my experience is that they don't understand what they've heard, or put a different, often overly sensationalist, construct on the information. There's a big difference between the PL asking for a specific deduction and the panel issuing one, but people hear these things and don't interpret them accurately.

As someone said earlier it's the equivalent of "Send reinforcements, we're going to advance" morphing into "Send three and four pence, we're going to a dance".
That's a point actually, would the PL include their preferred punishment along with their evidence if the panel found in their favour? It doesn't sound right to me but then I'm no lawyer.
 
What, like the post that the hearing had finished in early November? Not that I'm digging out that poster but it seems positive info gets more leeway than negative info
You'd have to ask the posters who believed that bud, I take anything posted (here or elsewhere) with a lorry load of salt. I'm happy to sit back and wait for the official announcement before getting worked up.
 
That's a point actually, would the PL include their preferred punishment along with their evidence if the panel found in their favour? It doesn't sound right to me but then I'm no lawyer.
They asked for a 12-point deduction in Everton's case but I don't know if that was when they referred the case to the IC or when the verdict was released and the pleadings over the appropriate penalty started.
 
This story about 50 charges being dropped has been doing the rounds for ages but I'm very dubious.

That number sounds very much like it's the charges under the first heading (sponsorship, related parties, accurate financial statements). And these are the issues substantially dismissed by CAS, so they've always been weak unless the PL found some sort of smoking gun that UEFA didn't. I don't believe for one moment that is likely though.

I've heard (I believe reliably) that we presented our evidence on that part of the charges and it was pretty well the same evidence we presented to CAS, with pretty well the same witnesses. If that is the case, that doesn't suggest the PL agreed to drop those particular charges before they were heard.

It's possible, I suppose, that the tribunal has questioned whether the PL lawyers have that smoking gun. If they don't have that then, without it, the tribunal might be very reluctant to override the CAS decision and may have made that clear. We just don't know.

And the PL may well have asked for a specific deduction of points in its original submission but there's simply no way the tribunal will have applied that before closing arguments have been heard. And they will make their own decision on that.

I'm not saying people don't hear things but my experience is that they don't understand what they've heard, or put a different, often overly sensationalist, construct on the information. There's a big difference between the PL asking for a specific deduction and the panel issuing one, but people hear these things and don't interpret them accurately.

As someone said earlier it's the equivalent of "Send reinforcements, we're going to advance" morphing into "Send three and four pence, we're going to a dance".


Dance, you say?
 
I've only once received some information from a source within the club, but I remember it well.

City were playing Coventry on a Friday evening just a few days after sacking Peter Reid.

Rumours were rife and the local media were all quoting John Maddock en route to Maine Road after rather cryptically announcing that Reid"s successor had just been cherry picked from another club within a three hour drive of Manchester

It was half time and City were leading 1-0.
We were standing outside the Press Box and desperate for information but were soon reassured by a sympathetic Head of Security

"DON'T QUOTE ME BUT IT'S GERRY FRANCIS"
 
I've only once received some information from a source within the club, but I remember it well.

City were playing Coventry on a Friday evening just a few days after sacking Peter Reid.

Rumours were rife and the local media were all quoting John Maddock en route to Maine Road after rather cryptically announcing that Reid"s successor had just been cherry picked from another club within a three hour drive of Manchester

It was half time and City were leading 1-0.
We were standing outside the Press Box and desperate for information but were soon reassured by a sympathetic Head of Security

"DON'T QUOTE ME BUT IT'S GERRY FRANCIS"
The most impressive part of that post is that you referred to John Maddock by his correct surname. The amount of fans who called him John Maddocks - which was the name of our club historian at the time and who was a far nicer bloke than that **** John Maddock ever was - used to wind me up no end! I clearly remember the chants on the Kippax on the night of that Coventry game: "Singing die die Maddocks, fucking die....."!
 

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