Etihad Campus, Stadium and Collar Site Development Thread

Keeper! said:
And the same council that will be part funding the new "Wembley of the north" despite what they say publicly.

Scruffy Jim and The Trailer Trash brothers won't be funding anything, yet I get the feeling the deal to build is already done and dusted, too much noise for it not to be.
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What noise? Genuine question. I obviously don't proactively look for united news, but i haven't heard a peep in months

The thought of the tax pay stumping up billions/hundreds of millions any time soon is actually making me laugh as I type it. The thought of ratclliffe and the glaziers funding it is even funnier
 
The Fat el Hombre said:
What noise? Genuine question. I obviously don't proactively look for united news, but i haven't heard a peep in months

The thought of the tax pay stumping up billions/hundreds of millions any time soon is actually making me laugh as I type it. The thought of ratclliffe and the glaziers funding it is even funnier
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Very true. There isn’t a hope in hell of any public money going into a new stadium for United. It would be very unpopular in political terms.

United have a big fan base but the vast majority of the electorate support other clubs or are totally antagonistic to football.

There are no votes in pumping money into, historically, the richest club in the country. There lot of votes to be lost in doing so.

I am not even sure that there is much scope for infrastructure development around any new stadium and the whole area is pretty well served by Metrolink.
 
The Fat el Hombre said:
What noise? Genuine question. I obviously don't proactively look for united news, but i haven't heard a peep in months

The thought of the tax pay stumping up billions/hundreds of millions any time soon is actually making me laugh as I type it. The thought of ratclliffe and the glaziers funding it is even funnier
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The Glaziers and Scruffy Jim aren't going to invest in a new stadium so why appoint Norman Fosters firm as chief architect at enormous expense.

The recent public consultations in my experience are usually smoke and mirrors and the decisions have already been made.

So who is going to fund the project? The banks may be somewhat reluctant to get involved with the rags ever increasing losses and incurring debt, so the whole project seems a strange and confessed one much like it's football operation.
 
Keeper! said:
The Glaziers and Scruffy Jim aren't going to invest in a new stadium so why appoint Norman Fosters firm as chief architect at enormous expense.

The recent public consultations in my experience are usually smoke and mirrors and the decisions have already been made.

So who is going to fund the project? The banks may be somewhat reluctant to get involved with the rags ever increasing losses and incurring debt, so the whole project seems a strange and confessed one much like it's football operation.
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They will put it down to COVID losses
 
Keeper! said:
The Glaziers and Scruffy Jim aren't going to invest in a new stadium so why appoint Norman Fosters firm as chief architect at enormous expense.

The recent public consultations in my experience are usually smoke and mirrors and the decisions have already been made.

So who is going to fund the project? The banks may be somewhat reluctant to get involved with the rags ever increasing losses and incurring debt, so the whole project seems a strange and confessed one much like it's football operation.
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Neville ??
 
Keeper! said:
The Glaziers and Scruffy Jim aren't going to invest in a new stadium so why appoint Norman Fosters firm as chief architect at enormous expense.

The recent public consultations in my experience are usually smoke and mirrors and the decisions have already been made.

So who is going to fund the project? The banks may be somewhat reluctant to get involved with the rags ever increasing losses and incurring debt, so the whole project seems a strange and confessed one much like it's football operation.
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Owners of football clubs really don't have a problem spending the clubs money on vanity projects. Employing the services of an expensive architect means fck all. Afterall, they will need a scaled down lego version of the new stadium in order to take the begging bowl round prospective donors. Like that one Swales had made for the redevelopment of Maine Road that was never going to happen.
 
Gingers Dad said:
Owners of football clubs really don't have a problem spending the clubs money on vanity projects. Employing the services of an expensive architect means fck all. Afterall, they will need a scaled down lego version of the new stadium in order to take the begging bowl round prospective donors. Like that one Swales had made for the redevelopment of Maine Road that was never going to happen.
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Disagree, Ineos have come in to them without realising how %ucked up they are at every level.

They will need every penny to sort out the footballing side but I still don't understand why Radcliffe would take on this situation with a minority shareholding, it does not make sense to me.

The Glazers could get a bid today and sell their share and Scruffy Jim is out at least out of controlling the club.
 
Keeper! said:
Disagree, Ineos have come in to them without realising how %ucked up they are at every level.

They will need every penny to sort out the footballing side but I still don't understand why Radcliffe would take on this situation with a minority shareholding, it does not make sense to me.

The Glazers could get a bid today and sell their share and Scruffy Jim is out at least out of controlling the club.
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Ratcliffe was an anonymous billionaire a few years ago, he could have died and no one would have know who he was. He wanted to be known, so he has got himself involved in sport, football and cycling. Like all successful businessmen he believes that his success, in his field of expertise, can easily be translated to sport, like all the others in the past he is finding out that sport is different. He’s taken the minority because he doesn’t want to risk his wealth and the Glaziers have played a blinder
 
Gordyola said:
Ratcliffe was an anonymous billionaire a few years ago, he could have died and no one would have know who he was. He wanted to be known, so he has got himself involved in sport, football and cycling. Like all successful businessmen he believes that his success, in his field of expertise, can easily be translated to sport, like all the others in the past he is finding out that sport is different. He’s taken the minority because he doesn’t want to risk his wealth and the Glaziers have played a blinder
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Very true, he has touched the Sky Cycling team, Mercedes F1 and the Americas cup and now the rags, all have had serious downturns.

Add to that the fake Land Rover, the Grenadier another struggling venture.
 
Joke of a service, again, post Utd match. The display boards at the Ashton bound stop showed next tram at 3 minutes for around 20 mins! Asked what the problem was and it turns out it was traffic at Holt Town, waiting for police to clear it! There's bloody traffic at Holt Town every game, whey don't the police ensure it is patrolled to prevent clowns stopping on the tracks, hand a few tickets out! Absolute mess of a system, cheers Andy Burnham, a great idea poorly executed. You'll have the trams sharing tracks with regular traffic next, oh wait!
 
Bluubooii said:
Joke of a service, again, post Utd match. The display boards at the Ashton bound stop showed next tram at 3 minutes for around 20 mins! Asked what the problem was and it turns out it was traffic at Holt Town, waiting for police to clear it! There's bloody traffic at Holt Town every game, whey don't the police ensure it is patrolled to prevent clowns stopping on the tracks, hand a few tickets out! Absolute mess of a system, cheers Andy Burnham, a great idea poorly executed. You'll have the trams sharing tracks with regular traffic next, oh wait!
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I walked back to Droylsden, not one bus or tram passed me, absolute sh*te service
 
Bluubooii said:
Joke of a service, again, post Utd match. The display boards at the Ashton bound stop showed next tram at 3 minutes for around 20 mins! Asked what the problem was and it turns out it was traffic at Holt Town, waiting for police to clear it! There's bloody traffic at Holt Town every game, whey don't the police ensure it is patrolled to prevent clowns stopping on the tracks, hand a few tickets out! Absolute mess of a system, cheers Andy Burnham, a great idea poorly executed. You'll have the trams sharing tracks with regular traffic next, oh wait!
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Cars were waiting on the tramline, and City fans were walking infront of the tram across the tramline. The tram had to stop, beeping it’s horn, but nobody was taking any notice. There are loads of taxis parked up near the Holt Town tram stop, making traffic congestion even worse. It’s a shit show near Holt Town tram stop after the match.
 
jrb said:
Cars were waiting on the tramline, and City fans were walking infront of the tram across the tramline. The tram had to stop, beeping it’s horn, but nobody was taking any notice. There are loads of taxis parked up near the Holt Town tram stop, making traffic congestion even worse. It’s a shit show near Holt Town tram stop after the match.
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Exactly, authorities know it's a pinch point so they should sort it.
 
Gordyola said:
Ratcliffe was an anonymous billionaire a few years ago, he could have died and no one would have know who he was. He wanted to be known, so he has got himself involved in sport, football and cycling. Like all successful businessmen he believes that his success, in his field of expertise, can easily be translated to sport, like all the others in the past he is finding out that sport is different. He’s taken the minority because he doesn’t want to risk his wealth and the Glaziers have played a blinder
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I suspect that Ratcliffe's part acquisition of United was driven, by a desire to establish a lasting legacy in his home region, through the creation of a 'Wembley of the North'.
 
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