Etihad Campus, Stadium and Collar Site Development Thread

[Blue Mist]

I notice we are back to discussing our deal with the council.
The simple fact is, Manchester City Council wanted the Olympics.
They were fucked off.
For that reason they bid for the Commonwealth games.
When they did they had no idea and no plan.
The first people they asked about using a stadium was the rags.
They said no.
We were second choice.
If we had said no it is likely Manchester would have lost the games. Yes there is talk about a temporary stadium but in all honesty, that was bollocks.
The council needed us and in some respect, we needed them.
The rest is history.
Manchester City Council have done very well out of the deal as we have.
To compare it to this abomination is ludicrous.

 

[BlueFurn]

I notice we are back to discussing our deal with the council.
The simple fact is, Manchester City Council wanted the Olympics.
They were fucked off.
For that reason they bid for the Commonwealth games.
When they did they had no idea and no plan.
The first people they asked about using a stadium was the rags.
They said no.
We were second choice.
If we had said no it is likely Manchester would have lost the games. Yes there is talk about a temporary stadium but in all honesty, that was bollocks.
The council needed us and in some respect, we needed them.
The rest is history.
Manchester City Council have done very well out of the deal as we have.
To compare it to this abomination is ludicrous.

Not sure from that if my addled memory has any credibility…
But it’s Friday night, Beth Hart is oozing out of the cd player, 3 swords is filling the glass and I’m buzzing.

 

[Gordyola]

So what was the price for Maine Road and Land, I thought we sold Maine road and land we owned to the MCC.
Also we have had 3 or 4 major refits at the Etihad that City paid for plus the New Northstand so it all adding up close to close to £1billion City have put into the stadium

Yeah it was all handed to MCC but I’ve never seen the value that was put on Maine Road. There were the demolition costs which would be a been substantial, of course the land was sold for housing so I’m sure there’s was a profit.
I would guess the extensions have cost close to £500m then there is 21 years of lease costs around £100m and maintenance

 

[Mad Eyed Screamer]

Yeah it was all handed to MCC but I’ve never seen the value that was put on Maine Road. There were the demolition costs which would be a been substantial, of course the land was sold for housing so I’m sure there’s was a profit.
I would guess the extensions have cost close to £500m then there is 21 years of lease costs around £100m and maintenance

We got £25m for Maine Road

 

[ancoats]

Yeah it was all handed to MCC but I’ve never seen the value that was put on Maine Road. There were the demolition costs which would be a been substantial, of course the land was sold for housing so I’m sure there’s was a profit.
I would guess the extensions have cost close to £500m then there is 21 years of lease costs around £100m and maintenance

Didn't we have major work on the Colin bell stand that cost a pretty penny and some more seats added in the lower levels Plus a new club shop that has now gone and also the City Square?

I looked at the first couple of seasons and before the new owners bought the club and the ground looks different both outside and in,

 

[ancoats]

We got £25m for Maine Road

But didn't we own all the land around Maine Road and Platt Lane?

 

[Mad Eyed Screamer]

But didn't we own all the land around Maine Road and Platt Lane?

Yes the car park area but not Platt Lane, assuming the council owned the land

 

[BlueRockape]

Yes the car park area but not Platt Lane, assuming the council owned the land

I thought we bought the land from GMP

 

[Gordyola]

Didn't we have major work on the Colin bell stand that cost a pretty penny and some more seats added in the lower levels Plus a new club shop that has now gone and also the City Square?

I looked at the first couple of seasons and before the new owners bought the club and the ground looks different both outside and in,

The major work on CB was changes to accommodate the Tunnel Club so yeah they have done changes to add more corporate all
Around the ground
The club shop at the north end was there for the games They added the City@aHome now the club shop The additional seats were added when the south stand was extended to add a few more thousand, these weren’t popular as they were at the same level as the front row, now mainly removed to accommodate the double height advertising boards Yeah City Sq was added now gone off course

 

[Gordyola]

I thought we bought the land from GMP

We did yeah and had a joint venture with the council for use of the facilities for the public I feel sure we either gifted the facilities to some sporting body or gave them a long term free lease Not sure about Carrington think we still own that as we kicked Bury out as they weren’t maintaining, used by Sale Sharks now I think

 

[Half Time Draw]

We got £25m for Maine Road

Did he track back?

 

[ancoats]

We did yeah and had a joint venture with the council for use of the facilities for the public I feel sure we either gifted the facilities to some sporting body or gave them a long term free lease Not sure about Carrington think we still own that as we kicked Bury out as they weren’t maintaining, used by Sale Sharks now I think

Carrington was gifted to Bury FC but they stopped paying the running cost and ran up a big bill that they could not pay

 

[Invisible Man's Bandage]

We got £25m for Maine Road

We gave Maine Road to the council and got nothing for it. A figure of 11 mill for land value is lodged in my mind. We also paid for the conversion of the Etihad from an athletics stadium to a football stadium (around 20 mill from memory). Effectively we had put a third into the total cost of the stadium build and have paid rent ever since so a great deal for the council.

 

[HelloCity]

 

[WRicko]

Carrington was gifted to Bury FC but they stopped paying the running cost and ran up a big bill that they could not pay

What will happen to it going forward ? Surely there are opportunities to make more money doing something else with it

 

[petrusha]

We got £25m for Maine Road

It was valued in the deal at £27 million, which represented its valuation in our accounts at the time. Some argued back then that the figure was excessive to a significant degree.

The Council wanted to cut the capacity to 20,000 or so and lease it to a sports team. Sale RU and Stockport County (seriously) put in bids and Sale were chosen. Unfortunately, their middle class support base didn't fancy a weekly trek from Cheshire to Moss Side so they pulled out. It was sold for housing instead and an FoIA request subsequently revealed it pulled in around £14 million.

That said, even if we take the value of Maine Road as just over half of that originally ascribed to it, the Council has received well over £80 million from City for the stadium as at summer 2024. I've given chapter and verse on this before, so use the search function if you want the proper figures.

 

[jrb]

It was valued in the deal at £27 million, which represented its valuation in our accounts at the time. Some argued back then that the figure was excessive to a significant degree.

The Council wanted to cut the capacity to 20,000 or so and lease it to a sports team. Sale RU and Stockport County (seriously) put in bids and Sale were chosen. Unfortunately, their middle class support base didn't fancy a weekly trek from Cheshire to Moss Side so they pulled out. It was sold for housing instead and an FoIA request subsequently revealed it pulled in around £14 million.

That said, even if we take the value of Maine Road as just over half of that originally ascribed to it, the Council has received well over £80 million from City for the stadium as at summer 2024. I've given chapter and verse on this before, so use the search function if you want the proper figures.

A bit of Maine Road nostalgia.

 

[eyalluvitt]

I notice we are back to discussing our deal with the council.
The simple fact is, Manchester City Council wanted the Olympics.
They were fucked off.
For that reason they bid for the Commonwealth games.
When they did they had no idea and no plan.
The first people they asked about using a stadium was the rags.
They said no.
We were second choice.
If we had said no it is likely Manchester would have lost the games. Yes there is talk about a temporary stadium but in all honesty, that was bollocks.
The council needed us and in some respect, we needed them.
The rest is history.
Manchester City Council have done very well out of the deal as we have.
To compare it to this abomination is ludicrous.

United refused a move to Manchester?

 

[jrb]

United refused a move to Manchester?

Ignore the Council House jibe at the start of the article. Gary James is mentioned in the article.

Article, 2010.

Labour MP Graham Stringer, who was leader of Manchester City Council at the time, is quoted as saying: “Discussions with United were serious and went to a high level – the highest level.

United planned to ditch Old Trafford for Eastlands - Exclusive

Fergie blocked the move in the late 90's fearing the decision could backfire like it did for Arsenal

www.mirror.co.uk

 

[I'm not really here]

Ignore the Council House jibe at the start of the article. Gary James is mentioned in the article.

Article, 2010.

Labour MP Graham Stringer, who was leader of Manchester City Council at the time, is quoted as saying: “Discussions with United were serious and went to a high level – the highest level.

United planned to ditch Old Trafford for Eastlands - Exclusive

Fergie blocked the move in the late 90's fearing the decision could backfire like it did for Arsenal

www.mirror.co.uk

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