Scottish Football Thread | 2024/25

ayrshire_blue said:
Just seeing the decision today, an obvious penalty which should have been awarded.

But it's all we've heard and read about for days since it happened. Compare and contrast to the penalty at Hampden which Aberdeen weren't awarded against Rangers or Killie against Celtic the year before. VAR was around then too. Can't remember such an outcry and demands for sackings etc.

As usual a much bigger deal being made when it involves one of the old firm gaining and the other losing out of a poor decision. I'm sure they'll more than make up for it with some very dubious awards of free kicks, bookings, corners and soft penalties where they can - such is the pressure they're put under.
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What penalty for Aberdeen?
 
ayrshire_blue said:
Exactly!
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No. I’m genuinely asking so I can have a look at it.

Just watched highlights of the final v Aberdeen from last season and guess what? McAusland scores to put Rangers ahead but Don Robertson blows for a non foul seconds before. Attacking phase should be played out before he whistles. Cheated again ; )

I can remember the Killie one. West stand end at Hampden and Celtic player goes through the back of Killie forward. Collum has clear view but doesn’t give it. Possibly the season before VAR in Scotland
 
No.8 said:
No. I’m genuinely asking so I can have a look at it.

Just watched highlights of the final v Aberdeen from last season and guess what? McAusland scores to put Rangers ahead but Don Robertson blows for a non foul seconds before. Attacking phase should be played out before he whistles. Cheated again ; )

I can remember the Killie one. West stand end at Hampden and Celtic player goes through the back of Killie forward. Collum has clear view but doesn’t give it. Possibly the season before VAR in Scotland
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Last minute obvious foul from Butland on Aberdeen attacker, dismissed after a 4 second VAR review.

Killie game had VAR.
 
ayrshire_blue said:
Last minute obvious foul from Butland on Aberdeen attacker, dismissed after a 4 second VAR review.

Killie game had VAR.
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Nope. No idea what ‘obvious foul’ your talking about but as I said there was an actual protocol error by Don Robertson in Rangers v Aberdeen game and nothing said

‘Obvious fouls’ are subjective which is wholly different from factual errors

Yep. I checked and there was VAR for that Killie game. If I remember correctly Collum claimed to have clear view of incident. Then again he had a clear view of Alistair Johnstone punching the ball but missed it.

ETA. Please tell me you are not talking about the goal mouth scramble.
 
Another Scottish football game and I hate to say it but again overshadowed by just the most awful officiating imaginable.

Killie should have had a penalty, debatably. The red card for Motherwell is just a ridiculous decision and not even debatable. The fact the referee was called to the VAR monitor and every single person alive was certain he would ovetturn his decision only for him to inexplicably stick by it is laughable.

 
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No.8 said:
No. I’m genuinely asking so I can have a look at it.

Just watched highlights of the final v Aberdeen from last season and guess what? McAusland scores to put Rangers ahead but Don Robertson blows for a non foul seconds before. Attacking phase should be played out before he whistles. Cheated again ; )

I can remember the Killie one. West stand end at Hampden and Celtic player goes through the back of Killie forward. Collum has clear view but doesn’t give it. Possibly the season before VAR in Scotland
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Yep quite correct Ayrshire Blue. In last minute of last seasons league cup final after Aberdeen had a corner Duk was taken out by Butland as he was about to shoot. Also handball by Rangers defender in first half, which TV cameras highlighted in slow motion later but somehow no interest from VAR. In Aberdeen fan forums videos of both incidents were doing the rounds after cup final. Pretty sure VAR would have been interested if these incidents had they happened in other penalty box.
 
stuart_kennedy_tache said:
Yep quite correct Ayrshire Blue. In last minute of last seasons league cup final after Aberdeen had a corner Duk was taken out by Butland as he was about to shoot. Also handball by Rangers defender in first half, which TV cameras highlighted in slow motion later but somehow no interest from VAR. In Aberdeen fan forums videos of both incidents were doing the rounds after cup final. Pretty sure VAR would have been interested if these incidents had they happened in other penalty box.
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Laughable. If anything Duk just falls into Butland. The only pundit that said it needed looking at was Michael Stewart. Also these are subjective decisions

ETA. How could Duk be about to shoot facing away from goal??? : ))))))



And your thoughts on Don Robertson blowing for non foul as McAusland is scoring in same game? This goes against VAR protocol

Dan Casey’s Red card is embarrassing and what’s more embarrassing if Referee sticks by decision even after VAR tell him to have another look
 
ayrshire_blue said:
Another Scottish football game and I hate to say it but again overshadowed by just the most awful officiating imaginable.

Killie should have had a penalty, debatably. The red card for Motherwell is just a ridiculous decision and not even debatable. The fact the referee was called to the VAR monitor and every single person alive was certain he would ovetturn his decision only for him to inexplicably stick by it is laughable.

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Dreadful decision that will be appealed.

This is the same Dan Casey that escaped a Red Card for horrible challenge on young McAusland that led to him needing crutches that night
 
No.8 said:
Dreadful decision that will be appealed.

This is the same Dan Casey that escaped a Red Card for horrible challenge on young McAusland that led to him needing crutches that night
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Oh he's a dirty bastard alright. I've seen a few of our players on the receiving end of more than a couple of dirty tackles from him. So in one sense, tough luck. Daft though, just never a red.
 
Officiating in the Scottish game is at an all time low. I’d love to lay the blame at Collums door but I can’t. It’s been going steadily downhill for years now.

Collums openness and honesty have to be applauded but there are only so many dreadful performances you can let go before you have to say enough is enough.

For me the dramatic downhill descent started when Hugh Dallas was forced from his position. He was widely regarded as one of the best Scottish referees in decades.
 
ayrshire_blue said:
Oh he's a dirty bastard alright. I've seen a few of our players on the receiving end of more than a couple of dirty tackles from him. So in one sense, tough luck. Daft though, just never a red.
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I saw it on follow follow , believe it’s the clip you posted above, and thought ‘nah. It can’t be for that’
 
No.8 said:
Officiating in the Scottish game is at an all time low. I’d love to lay the blame at Collums door but I can’t. It’s been going steadily downhill for years now.

Collums openness and honesty have to be applauded but there are only so many dreadful performances you can let go before you have to say enough is enough.

For me the dramatic downhill descent started when Hugh Dallas was forced from his position. He was widely regarded as one of the best Scottish referees in decades.
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Agree, although I'm on the young side to remember too much of Dallas. I remember him as a ref, obviously, but probably at an age where I didn't pay attention to who was good and who wasn't, if that makes sense. Who was the ref who (I think) supported Killie, think he was one of the higher profile and indeed he refereed his last match at rugby park - early 2000's or thereabouts?

That tonight was just farcical. The penalty and red card decisions aside, just constantly blowing for free kicks when there's barely been a challenge, small details like throw ins being awarded the wrong way, stopping the game to speak to players when there didn't seem any obvious reason to etc. Poor and detrimental to the game itself.
 
ayrshire_blue said:


The more you see it, the worse it gets...
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My honest opinion is I can see how referee made the mistake but I ve seen the still you posted that VAR would have seen and it’s as clear to see. These mistakes simply should not be happening!

As for the Red card. I can only think that when Motherwell player grabs Killie player his hand slips towards chin on Killie player making the slimmest of contact.
 
Aberdeens implosion continues as they are currently trailing 3-1 at Home to Hibs
 
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