It's Quiet 18 - Wanna ring the bell?

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knuckles said:
If we really wanted to spend big in January, here's my list of who could be available and how much:

  1. Martin Zubimendi: £51.5 million
  2. Bruno Guimarães: £66 million
  3. Florian Wirtz: Estimated around £50 million
  4. Ederson: Estimated around £60 million
  5. Adam Wharton: Estimated around £40 million
Adding these up, the total cost would be approximately £267.5 million.
  1. Martin Zubimendi: As a defensive midfielder, he could provide solid cover and balance in the midfield, especially in defensive transitions.
  2. Bruno Guimarães: His creativity and ball control could enhance City's midfield dynamics and link-up play.
  3. Florian Wirtz: With his attacking prowess, he could offer additional options in creating chances and scoring goals.
  4. Ederson: He could strengthen the defensive line and add more options in defense.
  5. Adam Wharton: Another midfield reinforcement, he could help maintain a strong presence in the middle of the park and provide depth for future matches.
Adding all five would give us a well-rounded squad capable of stabilising us and would be better rotation and reduce the risk of injuries due to overplaying our key players (Kev, etc).
5 new players in a team isn't something we have done for a long time if ever? Adding 5 players into a team is a huge risk, but apparently we can afford it and these players may be available so who knows? And yes I have been drinking!
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Aside from the low values as others have pointed this is wishful thinking

City's wage bill, I know its higher because of bonuses, is too high so to add 5 more players costs >£50M / year is high likely
There are also restricts on squad make up to consider and UEFA only allow for 3 squad changes or so, this is assuming we qualify for next stage
There are also PSR restricts to consider with new squad spend being link to turnover and this is getting more restricted each season
Of course some of the above can be offset by getting rid of dead wood but that can be costly in easing the players out
 
Isn’t the talk that we want a midfielder, right back and forward in Jan? So I assume we’ve moved on from Bruno G already?
 
Tricky_Trev said:
Isn’t the talk that we want a midfielder, right back and forward in Jan? So I assume we’ve moved on from Bruno G already?
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Potentially moved from Bruno to Zubi. Bruno put out a statement which was either goodbye or I’m staying.

For our issues currently I’d say Zubi is a better signing.
 
Fordyboy46 said:
I just don't understand how the money is suddenly available now but wasn't in the summer. Such poor planning last summer which has come back to bite us on the arse and now we're panicking
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Makes sense to me, or at least I can understand the thinking. It was never about money.No we aren't panicking.
 
bell_mcfc said:
Potentially moved from Bruno to Zubi. Bruno put out a statement which was either goodbye or I’m staying.

For our issues currently I’d say Zubi is a better signing.
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Tbh I see it the opposite way. Bruno G has more energy, better duel winning. I also see him as being more versatile in the different midfield roles he can play, so when Rodri is back I see much more clearly how Bruno G and Rodri can play together. But I’m less confident about how it works with Zubimendi. For me, Bruno G would be a miles better signing but if it’s not possible, it’s not possible.
 
Tricky_Trev said:
Tbh I see it the opposite way. Bruno G has more energy, better duel winning. I also see him as being more versatile in the different midfield roles he can play, so when Rodri is back I see much more clearly how Bruno G and Rodri can play together. But I’m less confident about how it works with Zubimendi. For me, Bruno G would be a miles better signing but if it’s not possible, it’s not possible.
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I get that. I’m wondering if we are going for a more comfortable 6 in this window because we are worried about our form and needing to finishing in the top 5.

I think Rodri will be able to play with Zubi but he’d be the more mobile one that steps forward and links up play, we’ve seen him do it and score some really important goals as well.

Then a player like Bruno in the summer would be perfect.

Currently I’d take anyone though. (Apart from Kalvin Phillips)
 
bell_mcfc said:
I get that. I’m wondering if we are going for a more comfortable 6 in this window because we are worried about our form and needing to finishing in the top 5.

I think Rodri will be able to play with Zubi but he’d be the more mobile one that steps forward and links up play, we’ve seen him do it and score some really important goals as well.

Then a player like Bruno in the summer would be perfect.

Currently I’d take anyone though. (Apart from Kalvin Phillips)
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This is why I don’t like it long term. We have our first ever Ballon D’Or winner and our midfield ‘solution’ would be to sign someone to play in his position and move the best player in the world somewhere else? To me that would be madness. Leave Rodri where he is. He scores those goals because from DM he can arrive at the perfect moments, and be on the edge of the box. If his starting position is higher we might actually find he has FEWER chances to score. Zubimendi seems great in the short term, but I want the club to remember that Rodri still exists and we need it to work when he’s back too.
 
Tricky_Trev said:
Bruno G has more energy, better duel winning. I also see him as being more versatile in the different midfield roles he can play, so when Rodri is back I see much more clearly how Bruno G and Rodri can play together. But I’m less confident about how it works with Zubimendi. For me, Bruno G would be a miles better signing but if it’s not possible, it’s not possible.
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That’s why I hope we can also bring in Reijnders. Zubimendi is limited in the positions he can play, and his lack of energy compared to Bruno or Reijnders is a major concern. We still need runners, and Zubimendi isn’t one. I’m not convinced how signing him alone would solve our lethargic midfield.
 
Tricky_Trev said:
This is why I don’t like it long term. We have our first ever Ballon D’Or winner and our midfield ‘solution’ would be to sign someone to play in his position and move the best player in the world somewhere else? To me that would be madness. Leave Rodri where he is. He scores those goals because from DM he can arrive at the perfect moments, and be on the edge of the box. If his starting position is higher we might actually find he has FEWER chances to score. Zubimendi seems great in the short term, but I want the club to remember that Rodri still exists and we need it to work when he’s back too.
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Good point.

My view going into this season was we didn’t need a back up 6 or a back up striker as we have the two best players in those positions in the world and we’d be fine with hybrid players backing them up. For instance Kov/Gundo as a 6 and say Foden/Bobb as a false 9. But that hasn’t worked out.

We still need a 6 as a squad player and having someone to rotate and push Rodri isn’t a bad thing. Zubi may have been told that’s the deal, like Ortega it’s not a bad deal at all.

Also need to see how Rodri is when he comes back, many players haven’t been the same after such an injury.
 
Dialog said:
That’s why I hope we can also bring in Reijnders. Zubimendi is limited in the positions he can play, and his lack of energy compared to Bruno or Reijnders is a major concern. We still need runners, and Zubimendi isn’t one. I’m not convinced how signing him alone would solve our lethargic midfield.
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Reijnders is great, having a great season etc.

Would Milan let him go and if so and what price.

Would love him here for sure.

With Zubi it’s the same as Rodri who was called Plodri his first year. A player with control, iq, timing etc. something Spanish midfielders seem to have.
 
Tricky_Trev said:
This is why I don’t like it long term. We have our first ever Ballon D’Or winner and our midfield ‘solution’ would be to sign someone to play in his position and move the best player in the world somewhere else? To me that would be madness. Leave Rodri where he is. He scores those goals because from DM he can arrive at the perfect moments, and be on the edge of the box. If his starting position is higher we might actually find he has FEWER chances to score. Zubimendi seems great in the short term, but I want the club to remember that Rodri still exists and we need it to work when he’s back too.
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No guarantee that Rodri will come back the same player
 
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