Didn't he say Walker didn't train for 20 days before playing him against Bournemouth ?
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5 | John Stones - 2024/25
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citytill1die84
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Pep says we've played well after literally every game we've lost do you believe that as well?Pep said himself he’d only trained for two days prior to this game.
Yep, rushed him back then as well and started him almost every game since.Didn't he say Walker didn't train for 20 days before playing him against Bournemouth ?
Ha, true-but there was no sign of stones in training photos/live training recently; only latter part of this week.Pep says we've played well after literally every game we've lost do you believe that as well?
And anybody looking at John can see he isn’t fit. He can hardly move.
citytill1die84
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Think with Stones we could leave him a full month training and he'd still manage to get injured.Ha, true-but there was no sign of stones in training photos/live training recently; only latter part of this week.
And anybody looking at John can see he isn’t fit. He can hardly move.
Top player but absolutely hampered by injuries, frustrating :-(
Possibly-his body looks done for unfortunately.Think with Stones we could leave him a full month training and he'd still manage to get injured.
Top player but absolutely hampered by injuries, frustrating :-(
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Is he really injured or suffering from a mental illness that he just can’t cope with the game/pressure anymore
He seemed to move pretty well when he charged 30 yards out of position to leave a huge hole in our rediculous high line for their first goal.Ha, true-but there was no sign of stones in training photos/live training recently; only latter part of this week.
And anybody looking at John can see he isn’t fit. He can hardly move.
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predictable
much like your posts
Tbf that was him pretty much done for.He seemed to move pretty well when he charged 30 yards out of position to leave a huge hole in our rediculous high line for their first goal.
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So you 100%,believe Pep is given professional medical advise that some of his players should not play on medical grounds and he ignores that and says fuck it I will play them anyway? Not a fucking chance.No denying he's a sick note, it's 50/50 if he gets out of bed each morning injured but the level any criticism at him for today's break down is inappropriate when the manager has even admitted to throwing his defenders back in less than 100%
Because peps done it all season long and we've seen all of them, including players not known for having many injuries suffer the same fate. Pep has said we've got 1 defender that he would describe as properly fit, all the rest are playing at far less than 100% it can be no surprise to anybody that playing stones at less than 100% results in an injury. He's done this for 2 months now, it's prolonged and worsened the injury problems and we've got 1 win in 12 to show for it.
Well either that or the medical team deserves sacking.So you 100%,believe Pep is given professional medical advise that some of his players should not play on medical grounds and he ignores that and says fuck it I will play them anyway? Not a fucking chance.
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Or certain players just aren't physically up to elite level football even when judged fit prior to a game.Well either that or the medical team deserves sacking.
If it was just Stones and Ake I would agree since they are injury prone, but when you add in Dias, Akanji, Walker, Doku, Grealish, it's more than that.Or certain players just aren't physically up to elite level football even when judged fit prior to a game.
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I agree mate when you add in the issue with wider players things seem odd, but on Stones specifically I just don't think his body can handle it anymore even when starting games from a fit position.If it was just Stones and Ake I would agree since they are injury prone, but when you add in Dias, Akanji, Walker, Doku, Grealish, it's more than that.
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But managers do exactly that. It's well documented. In fact, in our 2011/12 season, when the players and Mancini went out to collect the trophy, Mancini blatantly ignored one of the staff and refused to shake his hand. That staff member was Dr Phil Batty, and Mancini hated him as he wouldn't allow him to put players back in the team until he (Dr Batty) felt they were ready.So you 100%,believe Pep is given professional medical advise that some of his players should not play on medical grounds and he ignores that and says fuck it I will play them anyway? Not a fucking chance.
We had an excellent injury record that season and Batty was largely responsible for that by not rushing players back too early. Mancini had Batty sacked for standing up to him and I think he got the current guy, Dr Sala in.
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So in your example the manager didn't play the players against medical advice then as the Dr wouldn't allow them to play ?But managers do exactly that. It's well documented. In fact, in our 2011/12 season, when the players and Mancini went out to collect the trophy, Mancini blatantly ignored one of the staff and refused to shake his hand. That staff member was Dr Phil Batty, and Mancini hated him as he wouldn't allow him to put players back in the team until he (Dr Batty) felt they were ready.
We had an excellent injury record that season and Batty was largely responsible for that by not rushing players back too early. Mancini had Batty sacked for standing up to him and I think he got the current guy, Dr Sala in.
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He fell out with the doctor because he (Mancini) wanted to play them against medical advice.So in your example the manager didn't play the players against medical advice then as the Dr wouldn't allow them to play ?
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Yes , you stated pep is playing injured players because its happened before with Mancini, then tell a story where Mancini was unhappy that his Dr WOULDNT let him play injured players so fired him .He fell out with the doctor because he (Mancini) wanted to play them against medical advice.
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