5 | John Stones - 2024/25

[bert38]

He seemed to move pretty well when he charged 30 yards out of position to leave a huge hole in our rediculous high line for their first goal.

Tbf that was him pretty much done for.

 

[uwerosler28]

No denying he's a sick note, it's 50/50 if he gets out of bed each morning injured but the level any criticism at him for today's break down is inappropriate when the manager has even admitted to throwing his defenders back in less than 100%


Because peps done it all season long and we've seen all of them, including players not known for having many injuries suffer the same fate. Pep has said we've got 1 defender that he would describe as properly fit, all the rest are playing at far less than 100% it can be no surprise to anybody that playing stones at less than 100% results in an injury. He's done this for 2 months now, it's prolonged and worsened the injury problems and we've got 1 win in 12 to show for it.

So you 100%,believe Pep is given professional medical advise that some of his players should not play on medical grounds and he ignores that and says fuck it I will play them anyway? Not a fucking chance.

 

[Chak19]

So you 100%,believe Pep is given professional medical advise that some of his players should not play on medical grounds and he ignores that and says fuck it I will play them anyway? Not a fucking chance.

Well either that or the medical team deserves sacking.

 

[uwerosler28]

Well either that or the medical team deserves sacking.

Or certain players just aren't physically up to elite level football even when judged fit prior to a game.

 

[Chak19]

Or certain players just aren't physically up to elite level football even when judged fit prior to a game.

If it was just Stones and Ake I would agree since they are injury prone, but when you add in Dias, Akanji, Walker, Doku, Grealish, it's more than that.

 

[uwerosler28]

If it was just Stones and Ake I would agree since they are injury prone, but when you add in Dias, Akanji, Walker, Doku, Grealish, it's more than that.

I agree mate when you add in the issue with wider players things seem odd, but on Stones specifically I just don't think his body can handle it anymore even when starting games from a fit position.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

So you 100%,believe Pep is given professional medical advise that some of his players should not play on medical grounds and he ignores that and says fuck it I will play them anyway? Not a fucking chance.

But managers do exactly that. It's well documented. In fact, in our 2011/12 season, when the players and Mancini went out to collect the trophy, Mancini blatantly ignored one of the staff and refused to shake his hand. That staff member was Dr Phil Batty, and Mancini hated him as he wouldn't allow him to put players back in the team until he (Dr Batty) felt they were ready.

We had an excellent injury record that season and Batty was largely responsible for that by not rushing players back too early. Mancini had Batty sacked for standing up to him and I think he got the current guy, Dr Sala in.

 

[uwerosler28]

But managers do exactly that. It's well documented. In fact, in our 2011/12 season, when the players and Mancini went out to collect the trophy, Mancini blatantly ignored one of the staff and refused to shake his hand. That staff member was Dr Phil Batty, and Mancini hated him as he wouldn't allow him to put players back in the team until he (Dr Batty) felt they were ready.

We had an excellent injury record that season and Batty was largely responsible for that by not rushing players back too early. Mancini had Batty sacked for standing up to him and I think he got the current guy, Dr Sala in.

So in your example the manager didn't play the players against medical advice then as the Dr wouldn't allow them to play ?

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

So in your example the manager didn't play the players against medical advice then as the Dr wouldn't allow them to play ?

He fell out with the doctor because he (Mancini) wanted to play them against medical advice.

 

[uwerosler28]

He fell out with the doctor because he (Mancini) wanted to play them against medical advice.

Yes , you stated pep is playing injured players because its happened before with Mancini, then tell a story where Mancini was unhappy that his Dr WOULDNT let him play injured players so fired him .