PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

slbsn said:
They will have come from the disclosure exercise City will have been required to be part of. City will have disclosed thousands of emails and other documents searched by key word, custodian and time ranges.
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I suppose the Premier League are looking for the following standout words in emails.

Sssshh.
That should read as £100m not 10m.
Don't tell anyone.
Who has got the false moustache and glasses this week.

If they aren't in any documents then we're good.
 
KS55 said:
City don’t have any investment into Co-op Live, nor any recompense when they sell beer to our fans on matchday.
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Silverlake is one of the investors behind Co-op’s owner, OVG. In Abu Dhabi, OVG is partnered with the state-owned entertainment company Ethara, which is the brainchild of Khaldoon and Simon Pearce. Ethara’s chairman is Abdulla Khouri, who is also a board member of City. So, when you buy a beer at Co-op you can be sure that a small portion of the revenue eventually finds its way to our friends in Abu Dhabi.
 
cookster said:
It's amazing how many of our fans think a few bad results mean our seat at the top table is over.
Embarrassing how little resilience some fans display.
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I’m not talking about our poor results lately. I’ve been a fan since 1976, and, bizarrely enough, I find it refreshing to face some challenges now and then. City should be a rollercoaster, not a highway. However, it’s impossible to ignore the fact that there’s a chance we might lose the 115 case against the Premier League. If that happens, the reality is that we’ll likely lose our place at the top table for a couple of seasons.
 
slbsn said:
They will have come from the disclosure exercise City will have been required to be part of. City will have disclosed thousands of emails and other documents searched by key word, custodian and time ranges.
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Has a commercial solicitor even been charged with perverting the course of justice in association with civil disclosure?

I’d say it’s fairly widespread as a practise. Think there’s huge levels of Nelsonian blindness around disclosure. As long as the protagonists have plausible deniability, they are pretty bomb proof.

That’s too low a bar from an enforcement perspective.
 
ancoats said:
The thing is our punishment if found guilty will not just be relegation and fines, They will add spending caps and transfer window bans and could even add no straight promotion for 2 seasons, They will 100% try and stop Manchester City for 10 years or even longer,

Once the Premier League and United and Liverpool have their say City will be lucky even to win the EFL trophy
I think if found guilty they will change the rules for state ownership or involvement in ownership to be banned

The Premier League (United) fuck up big time allowing Sheik Mansour to own Manchester City and not them

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ancoats said:
But Juventus they were the top dog running the football over there

We all know Manchester City is not a powerhouse club in the Premier League and has little say in the rules and changes made., We also know United are the main power in the Premier League and don't want us building a history better than theirs,

100% if we are found guilty it will finish Manchester City and Sheik Mansour owning the club, they don't just want punishment us, but they want to finish us and make us that little old city again.

Forget the investment and infrastructure or shareholdings because they will be worthless if found guilty
The scariest thing is it could all end overnight and everything would be a major problem: Manchester City would be left penniless and all the money gone.

Yes the stadium will be finished and over 60.000 capacity, but we would never fill it in the championship and the corporate and hospitality would struggle and it would have to be closed because of the cost of running it on match days.

A Guilty Verdict would be a life sentence
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Then they clearly don’t understand the mentality of our friends in Abu Dhabi. They won’t walk away – quite the opposite. It’ll be raining money over the Etihad. I can also see a scenario where Silverlake becomes the majority owner of the club if they try to legislate our current owners out.
 
Keith Moon said:
Then they clearly don’t understand the mentality of our friends in Abu Dhabi. They won’t walk away – quite the opposite. It’ll be raining money over the Etihad. I can also see a scenario where Silverlake becomes the majority owner of the club if they try to legislate our current owners out.
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Sheikh Mansour, Khaldoon, etc, will have planned for every scenario the final verdict delivers.
 
JCB001 said:
Why has this negativity risen it's head again.Seriously have I missed something
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It usually cos someone’s heard off a mate of a mate window cleaners brothers dog that we’re guilty and we’re getting deducted points.
I’m not worried cos earlier I took the dogs out and in the woods I bumped into a squirrel riding a unicorn and the squirrel told my dog we’re gonna be alright.
My dog then told me.
Easy this ITK stuff : )
 
slbsn said:
Not necessarily. Disclosure in the PL case is massively more. Hence 12 weeks. Thousands of emails and docs
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What worries me the most is that Rui Pinto’s lawyer said, “the decision in the UK could be helpful for him in his defence,” and that he’s handed over more documents and data about European clubs – including stuff connected to the City case.
 
ancoats said:
The thing is our punishment if found guilty will not just be relegation and fines, They will add spending caps and transfer window bans and could even add no straight promotion for 2 seasons, They will 100% try and stop Manchester City for 10 years or even longer,

Once the Premier League and United and Liverpool have their say City will be lucky even to win the EFL trophy
I think if found guilty they will change the rules for state ownership or involvement in ownership to be banned

The Premier League (United) fuck up big time allowing Sheik Mansour to own Manchester City and not them

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Fuck me mate! Where are you getting this from? Your head? We’re not even going to be found guilty, never mind all those sanctions. They have to prove mass fraud by some of the most influential people and business people in the world to do anything remotely close to that. Don’t do it to yourself. We’ll be just fine
 
slbsn said:
Complacency, reliance on Pep, error.
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Totally right. It is not a weakness to admit that the club got things wrong. Failure to do this make us arrogant. The exact thing we have accused other clubs of. I also hope that Pep doesn't become the Arsene Wenger of East Manchester. I would hate his legacy to be ruined and the transition to thr next manager to be made more challenging than it needs to be. I'm certain Pep will call time if he cannot turn things around. One things for sure, everyone is going to need ro re-baseline their expectation on what the squad can achieve this season.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Has a commercial solicitor even been charged with perverting the course of justice in association with civil disclosure?

I’d say it’s fairly widespread as a practise. Think there’s huge levels of Nelsonian blindness around disclosure. As long as the protagonists have plausible deniability, they are pretty bomb proof.

That’s too low a bar from an enforcement perspective.
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If I understood any of that post, I would totally agree.
 
wolviedinho said:
I’m not mad at them at all. The opposite in fact. You can’t tell me due to past success that the top brass hasn’t taken their eye off the ball when it comes to city.

People get complacent all the time no what what sector they work in.

The group that includeds Khaldoon, Soriano, Txiki, Pep and anyone else decided this squad was good enough to win the league again and obtain top 4.

Clearly they have gotten this one wrong. Last season we barely got over the line. Form towards the end nosedived with a cup loss to the rags.

This is not an attack but a fact the decisions made have been wrong.

As fans we make decisions on emotions and I would say nearly everyone of us was delighted with the squad going into the season. However, we are fans and only see glimpses of what is going on.

Those who do make the decision made a hash this time around. We got to comfortable, too much patting ourselves on the back and didn’t do what was needed last summer.

The club is run fantastic in some aspects. Recruitment has been poor now for a few seasons. Collectively they have all failed to keep us top.
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Barely got over the line? We lost on 6th December 2023 and then…er….didn’t lose a single league game.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Has a commercial solicitor even been charged with perverting the course of justice in association with civil disclosure?

I’d say it’s fairly widespread as a practise. Think there’s huge levels of Nelsonian blindness around disclosure. As long as the protagonists have plausible deniability, they are pretty bomb proof.

That’s too low a bar from an enforcement perspective.
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Practice.
 
Keith Moon said:
What worries me the most is that Rui Pinto’s lawyer said, “the decision in the UK could be helpful for him in his defence,” and that he’s handed over more documents and data about European clubs – including stuff connected to the City case.
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Yeah, and I could be winning the lottery jackpot on Christmas night. He doesn't seem supremely confident.
 
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