The Top Five Race 2024-25 (poll added)

Will we make the top 5?

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Gobshiight said:
The commentator today said it's looking likely that the top 5 will make it into the Champions League

Anyone know if he's chatting shite? It was Clive Tyldesley so...
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The top two performing leagues in europe by coefficient get an extra spot and it is looking like England will get one
 
RegisteredToSeePhotos said:
The top 2 countries in this table get the two 5th placed entries.

Currently England and Italy.

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This is a bonus!

I have no idea how easy or likely that is to change, but a season of 5th and getting in the CL, the FA Cup and Club World Cup would be a cracking ‘shit’ season!
 
Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese said:
Aside from the financial implications a season of not playing in Europe while we rebuild would do us no harm. Something like 3 weeks off in the last year and we wonder why the squad looks burned out - and we've got that FIFA money spinner this year too.
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I nice wedge from the Club World Cup would certainly soften the blow of something like a 9th placed finish and no Europe next season.

Chelsea finished 10th in 2015-16 (as Champions) and won the league in 2016-17 having no Europe to worry about.
 


This is concerning. We are at a risk of ending up like the likes of United this season. Looking at these, we are possibly going to lose all of them, maybe except for Brugge IF we improve.
 
M23 Citizen said:
This is a fucking bonus and a half!

I have no idea how easy or likely that is to change, but a season of 5th and getting in the CL, the FA Cup and Club World Cup would be a cracking ‘shit’ season!
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I deleted the post you quoted because it's incorrect although the correct info is still currently good news for City

Next year's (2025/26) 5th placed spots are based on the average (avg) co-efficient of each country's clubs that are competing in UEFA competitions in the current 2024/25 season only.

Currently the top 2 are England and Portugal (although Italy isn't far behind in 3rd)

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Country coefficients | UEFA rankings

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You'd expect Liverpool to go quite deep in this year's Champions League. Arsenal perhaps too. Chelsea should win the entire Conference League. All that will help England's coefficient.
 
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Get the signings right in Jan, Oscar Bobb back and Dias and I think 4th is achievable, but it will be a fight. Any of those not come to pass and Europa League is about as good as it gets.

At the moment 40pts should be the initial target.
 
I’m shocked how negative this vote is, we are just needing to get a handful of players fit again and we will catch up quickly. OK we are not going to be champions this time, but have some faith you fiserable muckers
 
Haaland94 said:


This is concerning. We are at a risk of ending up like the likes of United this season. Looking at these, we are possibly going to lose all of them, maybe except for Brugge IF we improve.
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Sorry but I won’t be coming to your New Year’s Eve party, I want to be positive
 
As we will win the champions league this year finishing in the top 4 is irrelevant
 
Aston Villa came 4th last year on 68 points. Probably will be less this year. But I'd be surprised if we break 60.
 
I can’t envisage us getting top four at the moment, mainly due to the current form being significantly more than a blip, and there is no sign of our injury situation improving.

I do think that with a couple of good signings next month, the return of Bobb, Dias and a few others that we can muster a charge to fifth (and CL qualification).

We really need a reboot of tactics / fit personnel to give us a chance to find some momentum.
 
Why does the poll finish in May? You should be able to make a judgement now that the season is halfway through. If you are right or wrong it's irrelevant, but tells you a bit more about your own judgement. Shut it in 2 weeks.
 
5th place might be our saving grace. last season English clubs fucked it up mostly due to early CL exits from Newcastle and rags and rather bad Europa League campaigns from Brighton and WHU, this season it should be somewhat better overall if rags,Spurs can go few rounds in EL, Chelsea in Coference and Villa, Arse, dippers look ok so far to be in last 16 of CL and dont expect all three to capitulate in that round.
well we would need to add some coeff points to it too and hopefully we dont fuck up the PSG, Brugge games so much we are out of it already in January.

I would guess around 66 could enough to clinch 4th with 64 maybe for 5th or so.

either way we need more than half of remaining max 60 points at least 37-38 for top5 and some of those are deffo hard games like Spurs away, rags away, Arse away, hosting Chelsea, Liverpool, Newcastle, Villa etc there are few draws in these ad maybe some losses too making it extremely important to beat most of lower half sides starting from Leicester game.

we really dont need the Thursday night schedule if we miss out on CL but go into EL.
 
robbieh said:
Aston Villa came 4th last year on 68 points. Probably will be less this year. But I'd be surprised if we break 60.
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Since the PL became 20 teams, 4th place has achieved:

1995-96: first season where it was a 20 team league, Villa finished 4th with 63 points
1996-97: Lpool 68pts
1997-98: Chelsea 63pts
1998-99: Leeds 67pts
1999-00: Lpool 67pts
2000-01: Leeds 68pts
2001-02: Ncastle 71pts
2002-03: Chelsea 67pts
2003-04: Lpool 60pts
2004-05: Everton 61pts
2005-06: Arsenal 67pts
2006-07: Arsenal 68pts
2007-08: Lpool 76pts
2008-09: Arsenal 72pts
2009-10: Spurs 70pts
2010-11: Arsenal 68pts
2011-12: Spurs 65pts
2012-13: Arsenal 73pts
2013-14: Arsenal 79pts
2014-15: Utd 70pts
2015-16: City 66pts
2016-17: Lpool 76pts
2017-18: Lpool 75pts
2018-19: Spurs 71pts
2019-20: Chelsea 66pts
2020-21: Chelsea 67pts
2021-22: Spurs 71pts
2022-23: Ncastle 71pts
2023-24: Villa 68pts

Average: 68.7pts
Range: 60-79pts



Since the PL became 20 teams, 5th place has achieved:

1995-96: first season where it was a 20 team league, Arsenal finished 5th with 63pts
1996-97: Villa 61pts
1997-98: Leeds 59pts
1998-99: West Ham 57pts
1999-00: Chelsea 65pts
2000-01: Ipswich 66pts
2001-02: Leeds 66pts
2002-03: Lpool 64pts
2003-04: Ncastle 56pts
2004-05: Lpool 58pts
2005-06: Spurs 65pts
2006-07: Spurs 60pts
2007-08: Everton 65pts
2008-09: Everton 63pts
2009-10: City 67pts
2010-11: Spurs 62pts
2011-12: Ncastle 65pts
2012-13: Spurs 72pts
2013-14: Everton 72pts
2014-15: Spurs 64pts
2015-16: Utd 66pts
2016-17: Arsenal 75pts
2017-18: Chelsea 70pts
2018-19: Arsenal 70pts
2019-20: Leic 62pts
2020-21: Leic 66pts
2021-22: Arsenal 69pts
2022-23: Lpool 67pts
2023-24: Spurs 66pts

Average: 64.8pts
Range: 56-75pts
 
One thing we have over all the other team we’re in this race with, is that we know how to perform under pressure and get wins when we need to go on a run as it gets to crunch time later in the season.

We just need to make sure this bad run doesn’t leave us too far behind.
 
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